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03-31-2011, 01:55 PM #11
If they didn't put autographs of every bum in the NHL they wouldn't have to use these. That schedule thing is all BS, they did it before I'm sure they could manage again.
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03-31-2011, 03:34 PM #12Hockey Advisor
But if they didn't make autographs of 'every bum' in the NHL - they wouldn't be able to make as many autographed cards overall.... so unless you think collectors are going to accept Inserts as 'hits' then what are the manufacturers supposed to do? They can't gaurentee you one Sidney Crosby autograph in every box.
Products are driven by Game Used, Autographed, and Rookie Cards. The last one (RCs) is easy - but becuase of the demand of the first two are so high..... realy, what choice is there?
If 'no autographs' was normal for most products..... and they limited their inclusion to only one or two products a year (from each manufacturer) then it would probably be easy. Same with GU cards.. If you could only pull them out of a couple of boxes each season - then there wouldn't be so much 'event worn' stuff out there.
Hands up eveyone who wants to see Upper Deck limit Autograph inclusion into SPA and The Cup only..... and GU for SPGU and The Cup only. That's what it would take for them to drop stickers and/or event used stuff.
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03-31-2011, 04:01 PM #13
Sticker autos typically result in fewer redemptions. Lesser of two evils most of the time. Hard-signed sets such as SPA, Trilogy Ice Scripts, the Cup, etc are the most valuable and collected for a reason though. Hard-Signed>stickers
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03-31-2011, 05:00 PM #14
Didn't they start doing more stickers in part due to damages to the cards through the players handling?
Personally I do prefer hard signed cards over stickers. A lot of the stickers just stick out too much from the rest of the card.
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03-31-2011, 07:48 PM #15
First of all everyone is entitled to their opinion so here is mine.
Sticker autos have no interest to me what so ever regardless of who or how many players on the card. I have seen cards evolve to the expensive priced hobby it has become so i expect the effort of a hard signed card or forget it.
I stopped collecting baseball all together after most autographs became sticker autos.
For hockey there are less and less sets with hard signed autographs to collect so i collect mostly The Cup cards.
The card companies can use any justification , rationalization or excuse they wish for sticker autos but " i am not buying it period "
When the time comes there are no longer hard signed rookies or autographs i will gladly find elsewhere to spent my money.
I realize people collect for different reasons and choices but i choose not to support sticker autos.
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04-01-2011, 09:52 AM #16
card manufacturers don't do something unless it makes them money. simple fact is we as collectors have come to expect cheapo jerseys and autos as common hits. we complain they're worthless but are still angry when we don't hit the stated odds. as a result, the card companies are forced to add more content since no one enjoys breaking a box of base and inserts.
the stickers were something that had to be done to keep up with players, logistics in making cards, and customer demand.
the obligation to the NHLPA only applies to the Be A Player brand and even then, that product is entirely sticker autos. believe it or not, the use of sticker autos is their response to customer demand.
and sometimes it isn't a matter of having someone simply chase a player down. some players are busier than others. others do sign but just don't return on time. the card companies can't go and yell up a storm at the players or they lose their future business. the only thing they can do is wait patiently and follow up from time to time. Sidney Crosby always has redemptions. you think UD is going to jeopardize their relationship with him? Patrick Roy only signs in batches of 300 cards at a time. you think UD wants to lose him as a signer?
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04-01-2011, 11:21 AM #17
It usually depends on the product, but mostly sticker autographs are/look bad. I don't like how they almost shine when you hold them up against some light or the sun; why can't the stickers be plainly transparent? But hey, that's just IMO - I'm sure there are lots of other opinions out there.
Once I even heard someone telling me about a seller who tried to convince to him that sticker autographs have a higher value! LOL.
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04-01-2011, 11:32 AM #18
I sort of like them, only because with-out them I wouldn't have any 10-11 Backlund auto's too chase
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04-01-2011, 03:02 PM #19
But if they didn't make autographs of 'every bum' in the NHL - they wouldn't be able to make as many autographed cards overall.... so unless you think collectors are going to accept Inserts as 'hits' then what are the manufacturers supposed to do?
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Yes, when the product is affordable. You don't see anybody complaining that has a 97-98 Wayne Gretzky Donruss Gold Stamp, or a 95-96 Select Certified Mirror Gold now do you?
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04-01-2011, 04:32 PM #20
I guess it depends what matters to you more..
Do you buy the card because it has an authentic auto on it, signed by someone you collect?
Or do you buy the card because it has an authentic auto on it, signed by someone you collect, who you know actually held it (even briefly) in his hand?
Most of the time, if it LOOKS good to me, I don't care if it's hard signed or a sticker.. It's the over all look, and the fact the auto is on there that I care about..
Your mileage may vary.. ;)
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