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    Makes sense...obviously can't debate an issue.

    With you there is no debate...

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    feed a family of 4 for for 7 dollars a month ??? ...If you have information on how I can feed a family of 4 for 7 please do share...

    Please provide some real data to back up that statement...United way from all accounts has a large administrative cost..Let alone other issues over the past number of years.

    I dont know where the number is... Maybe it is 10 bucks a month or something... Either way it isMUCH MUCH lower than the government can do. If I find the exact stat I will post it but I wont be spending much time looking... I think we can all agree if the government was run as a business it would have failed long long ago

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    I dont know where the number is... Maybe it is 10 bucks a month or something... Either way it isMUCH MUCH lower than the government can do. If I find the exact stat I will post it but I wont be spending much time looking... I think we can all agree if the government was run as a business it would have failed long long ago


    Thats is why Government is not a business...

    and we can all agree if the 2 parties would DO THE RIGHT THING with what is in hand all would be better as well...

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    Thats is why Government is not a business...

    and we can all agree if the 2 parties would DO THE RIGHT THING with what is in hand all would be better as well...

    Not really... First off the government SHOULD be run like a business.... Dont spend more than you make, make the decision based on what is best for the shareholders (the american people) etc....

    Second, Even if the parties would do the right thing it is a system set up for failure. Thefederal government was not put in place to micromanage. It was set up as a governing body for the people. Funding for programs should be held strictly by states and regulated through them also. A politician sitting in DC has no idea what it is like in Elkhart County Indiana so they shouldnt be voting on how to help those people. On the flip side, a chrity like United Way, Samaritans Purse, Big Brother Big Sisters, etc can take a dollar and stretch it further than the extreme couponers on tv. Im not doubting your comment about the issues they have had but on the scale of things there is more fraud in the current system than the united ways annual budget.

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    I don't care which party did this is unacceptable. If they want to cut cost and reduce budgets look at your self first and stop pointing ™™™™ing fingers...with the average wealth of a congress person being 911K in 2009 up from 785K in 2008 (WHILE IN THE MIDST OF A DEPRESSION OR RESCISSION)....can we all agree they can live on less reduce the federal payment and you have a start cause we have way to many people in government making way to much money to pick on the less fortunate period.

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    With you there is no debate...

    The cheap shots never stop, do they? Not into the whole "leading by example" thing?

    What about with everyone else? I haven't seen a post with substance from you in weeks...just wisecracks, insults, and bashing Republicans. Hard to reach across party lines and compromise like The Great One has promised that way...WWOD?

    What happened to you madman? If I remember correctly, you used to be one of the more reasonable, productive posters in this forum...



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    No cheap shots...fact is there is no debating with you. I am the same person i have always been really. I am just tired of people bashing people. We are at a point in this country where so much is at stake that the personal agenda's and parties cannot see over the BS and get he job done! I actually ignore 90% of what you post as an effort to remain somewhat sane. For years I have listened to republicans (which ever shade you wish to follow) and find that they scream and protest to just scream and protest! I find more so, that they cant sell it! Sell to people of liberal thoughts and the like. If you wish to cast me as a liberal by all means please do, if it makes you feel better. However, when i read article like this one, regardless of the source, I find it petty that the any person feels the feel to attack the less fortunate, in this case children, i would think all reading this would feel the same way. This is was not the case. but who cares right? They are just children. They dont vote. so pay mind

    If you beleive that is a cheap shot then so be it..


    In regards to the United Way...I have never donate money to them and most likely I will not. There history is not the best and they are always in question about administrative costs. However, that is a different topic.


    and 10 bucks a month? Man i need that diet...please find that and i will read that in full! I need to save a few bucks!

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    No cheap shots...fact is there is no debating with you. I am the same person i have always been really. I am just tired of people bashing people. We are at a point in this country where so much is at stake that the personal agenda's and parties cannot see over the BS and get he job done! I actually ignore 90% of what you post as an effort to remain somewhat sane. For years I have listened to republicans (which ever shade you wish to follow) and find that they scream and protest to just scream and protest! I find more so, that they cant sell it! Sell to people of liberal thoughts and the like. If you wish to cast me as a liberal by all means please do, if it makes you feel better. However, when i read article like this one, regardless of the source, I find it petty that the any person feels the feel to attack the less fortunate, in this case children, i would think all reading this would feel the same way. This is was not the case. but who cares right? They are just children. They dont vote. so pay mind

    So basically, Republicans should just forget about everything they believe in and accept liberal policies because you think they're right. You ignore 90% of what the other side says, you feel they should go against their core beliefs and simply capitulate to the other side...healthy political attitude there! If you wouldn't just ignore what the other side says, you would realize they are screaming and protesting for a reason: they completely disagree on a fundamental level with what's happening in our country and the decisions politicians are making and are trying to do something about it. Why don't you just give up what you believe is right and accept conservative policies instead of screaming and protesting for no reason?

    And let me guess, I'm the close-minded one?

    The One would pretend to be ashamed of you. You are not embodying the bipartisanship change he pretended to promise in his campaign.

    If you beleive that is a cheap shot then so be it..

    I do believe it a cheap shot. If you want to discuss issues, then by all means discuss. If all you do is slander, insult, and mock...that my friend is a cheap shot.

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    There ya go madman...

    http://www.unitedwayallencounty.org/sites/default/files/file/$1%20a%20week%2010(1).pdf

    I apologize... i remembered it a little off... but the point still remains they are a whole lot more efficient than handing out hundreds of dollars or government aid and social security checks....

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    So basically, Republicans should just forget about everything they believe in and accept liberal policies because you think they're right. You ignore 90% of what the other side says, you feel they should go against their core beliefs and simply capitulate to the other side...healthy political attitude there! If you wouldn't just ignore what the other side says, you would realize they are screaming and protesting for a reason: they completely disagree on a fundamental level with what's happening in our country and the decisions politicians are making and are trying to do something about it. Why don't you just give up what you believe is right and accept conservative policies instead of screaming and protesting for no reason?

    And let me guess, I'm the close-minded one?

    The One would pretend to be ashamed of you. You are not embodying the bipartisanship change he pretended to promise in his campaign.



    I do believe it a cheap shot. If you want to discuss issues, then by all means discuss. If all you do is slander, insult, and mock...that my friend is a cheap shot.

    I fail to see your connection between the concepts, making your logic flawed. Embody bipartisanship? Is this not what the republicans ran on this last election? And how long did that last? Please tell me you have more then this??? If you believe this was a cheap shot-man you do not know well enough! Outside this forum and the rules enforced here-you would think I hang them and then burn them at the stake!

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