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    So you want me to own up to being a bigot? Sure, I'll admit that. Now you admit it too. You say you wouldn't vote for somebody based solely on their religion? I don't believe you. That's the only thing most conservative Christians care about.

    Where do you get that I am a conservative Christian? Just because I know religion doesn't make me a practitioner. I know the names of 20 different Jui Jitsu moves but that doesn't make me a black belt.

    I have said this on here several times but the label that you have attached to me has apparently blinded you when reading those parts. I am agnostic.

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    You know Mike, I have been in the PR forum for quite a while and have noticed a pattern with you. You never miss a chance to attack Christians, Christianity or to label someone a Christian and then attack them based on your assigned label. In contrast, you never, ever attack Judaism or Islam or Hinduism, just Christianity.

    A few definitions for you from Webster's..

    Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity.

    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.


    Atheism is not about attacking Christians or any other specific religious group, it is a belief that there is no deity. Attacking a specific religious group solely based on their religion is not atheism, it is bigotry.

    I think the "attacks on christianity" come because it's a defense of people wanting to use christian ideals to define legislation or simply what is considered right or wrong. I'm sure that if there were jews, muslims, or any other religious factions on SCF trying to use their religious values to define how every U.S. citizen should live or what laws should be created the atheists would be just as active in those threads. For me it's not about the specific religious view, it's about if they are using their religious views to make standards and laws that they want everyone to follow, even if they are not of the same opinion of religious views.

    Christianity just happens to be the majority religion that wants to speak about their religious views and tries to create laws with them in mind.

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    This is addressed to gatorboymike:

    First and foremost, I want to apologize on behalf of whoever or whomevers offended you so greatly and they called themselves Christians. It is very clear to me from your posts that somewhere along the lines there was great pain caused to you by someone calling themselves a Christian.

    But I want to say this, you are very personally offensive to me. Maybe I should have thicker skin but I've just started reading in this subforum and all I see is you continually make comments that are gross generalizations and grossly offensive.

    To say that Christianity has a deathgrip on America is absurd. You can hate Christians all you want but there are plenty of churches and pastors who love this country and love people and are doing incredible things. Don't believe me? PM me and I'll give you statistical proof if you'd like it.

    And in another thread you said that their is no difference between a bigot and a pastor. I know you were saying that partly tongue in cheek but as a 23 year old kid who just graduated Bible college and has dreamed of being a pastor and starting a church that helps the community it is in, this is extremely offensive. That's all I really have to say. I hope you have a good day.

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    This is addressed to gatorboymike:

    First and foremost, I want to apologize on behalf of whoever or whomevers offended you so greatly and they called themselves Christians. It is very clear to me from your posts that somewhere along the lines there was great pain caused to you by someone calling themselves a Christian.

    But I want to say this, you are very personally offensive to me. Maybe I should have thicker skin but I've just started reading in this subforum and all I see is you continually make comments that are gross generalizations and grossly offensive.

    To say that Christianity has a deathgrip on America is absurd. You can hate Christians all you want but there are plenty of churches and pastors who love this country and love people and are doing incredible things. Don't believe me? PM me and I'll give you statistical proof if you'd like it.

    And in another thread you said that their is no difference between a bigot and a pastor. I know you were saying that partly tongue in cheek but as a 23 year old kid who just graduated Bible college and has dreamed of being a pastor and starting a church that helps the community it is in, this is extremely offensive. That's all I really have to say. I hope you have a good day.

    I hope you find this is equally offensive

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    You know I can feel both sides of the fence. There are christians who did me wrong. Just like there are blacks who did me wrong (I am black btw), whites who did me wrong, hispanics, asians, republicans, democrats, etc. I do try my best not to judge the whole group by the actions of a few. @Tivo32 I can see that you don't appreciate some of what our good friend GBM has said. Why don't you turn what he said into a positive and give your blood sweat and tears into helping your community and your brothers and sisters and showing that there are still some positive christians out there. Also it would be nice to see some republicans prove me wrong and do something constructive to help our country out instead of playing politics as usual and catering to the lowest element in our society but I won't hold my breath waiting.
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    You know I can feel both sides of the fence. There are christians who did me wrong. Just like there are blacks who did me wrong (I am black btw), whites who did me wrong, hispanics, asians, republicans, democrats, etc. I do try my best not to judge the whole group by the actions of a few. @Tivo32 I can see that you don't appreciate some of what our good friend GBM has said. Why don't you turn what he said into a positive and give your blood sweat and tears into helping your community and your brothers and sisters and showing that there are still some positive christians out there. Also it would be nice to see some republicans prove me wrong and do something constructive to help our country out instead of playing politics as usual and catering to the lowest element in our society but I won't hold my breath waiting.

    "catering to the lowest element in our society but I won't hold my breath waiting. "

    And just what/who is the lowest element of our society ?
    And why do democrats always resort to name calling ?

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    I hope you find this is equally offensive

    "That is like saying Open-Minded Athiest. They just don't mix"
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    I would think that comment would be more offensive to an Atheist. Just like I'm sure you weren't offended by what offended me. Have I met open minded Athiests, yes I have.
    Last edited by Tivo32; 07-06-2011 at 05:30 PM.

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    You know I can feel both sides of the fence. There are christians who did me wrong. Just like there are blacks who did me wrong (I am black btw), whites who did me wrong, hispanics, asians, republicans, democrats, etc. I do try my best not to judge the whole group by the actions of a few. @Tivo32 I can see that you don't appreciate some of what our good friend GBM has said. Why don't you turn what he said into a positive and give your blood sweat and tears into helping your community and your brothers and sisters and showing that there are still some positive christians out there. Also it would be nice to see some republicans prove me wrong and do something constructive to help our country out instead of playing politics as usual and catering to the lowest element in our society but I won't hold my breath waiting.

    I think there is a better way to discuss and air our differences rather than resorting to offending people.

    And I will absolutely turn what he said into a positive, thank you my friend.

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    My whole point in posting the few times I have is because it seems like these types of threads never produce anything beneficial. I don't think anyone walks away from their keyboard after posting in here feeling good about anything. If that's the case what's the point of it?

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    Wow. I don't even know what to say to that.

    I normally dont watch NASCAR, but I have to say, it's a good thing there aren't too many people here in the politics forum, or else you'd be on half the site's ignore list.


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