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    In many states, if you stab a pregnant woman in the abdomen and cause the baby to die, you can be charged with murder, yet those same states are required by Federal law to allow the unrestricted killing of unborn children.

    It seems that the liberal position on babies is relative to the mother's opinion of the baby. If the mother wants the baby then it is protected from unlawful loss of life. If she does not want it then it is just medical waste.


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    In many states, if you stab a pregnant woman in the abdomen and cause the baby to die, you can be charged with murder, yet those same states are required by Federal law to allow the unrestricted killing of unborn children.

    It seems that the liberal position on babies is relative to the mother's opinion of the baby. If the mother wants the baby then it is protected from unlawful loss of life. If she does not want it then it is just medical waste.

    So you think the individual states should be allowed to decide whether or not they want to allow this practice, but the individual mothers should not be allowed to decide whether or not they want to undergo it?

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    So you think the individual states should be allowed to decide whether or not they want to allow this practice, but the individual mothers should not be allowed to decide whether or not they want to undergo it?

    Yes, that is exactly what I said.

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    Perry is a hypocrite.

    He supports state rights for abortion, yet supports a constitutional amendment that categorizes marriage as between a man and a woman, effectively stripping the states of their right to define marriage.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...us-is-on-jobs/

    "Perry, 61, said social issues should be decided state by state and even remarked that New York's passage of gay marriage law was that state's business. Still, he said he would support a constitutional amendment that takes away the power of the states to decide who can get married.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/31/perry-backs-constitutional-marriage-amendment-but-says-focus-is-on-jobs/#ixzz1ThI4H11T"

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    Perry is a hypocrite.

    He supports state rights for abortion, yet supports a constitutional amendment that categorizes marriage as between a man and a woman, effectively stripping the states of their right to define marriage.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...us-is-on-jobs/

    "Perry, 61, said social issues should be decided state by state and even remarked that New York's passage of gay marriage law was that state's business. Still, he said he would support a constitutional amendment that takes away the power of the states to decide who can get married.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/31/perry-backs-constitutional-marriage-amendment-but-says-focus-is-on-jobs/#ixzz1ThI4H11T"

    I had read his comments on the NY law (that it was the state's option to do pass it), but didn't see that he would support a constitutional amendment. I think he does need to be consistent on the issue...however, perhaps his support of a constitutional amendment stems from the fact he knows the states currently do not have the powers they were delegated by the Constitution. If states' rights were acknowledged and followed as intended, perhaps his stance would be different.



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    Perry is a hypocrite.

    He supports state rights for abortion, yet supports a constitutional amendment that categorizes marriage as between a man and a woman, effectively stripping the states of their right to define marriage.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...us-is-on-jobs/

    "Perry, 61, said social issues should be decided state by state and even remarked that New York's passage of gay marriage law was that state's business. Still, he said he would support a constitutional amendment that takes away the power of the states to decide who can get married.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/31/perry-backs-constitutional-marriage-amendment-but-says-focus-is-on-jobs/#ixzz1ThI4H11T"

    OPT beat me to it for the most part. There is nothing wrong with advocating states rights while playing "the game" the way it has to be played to get something done. That isn't hypocrisy, it is reality.

    If he took the position that everything should be state's rights and never dealt with anything that wasn't a state's right then he would be quite a failure as a politician.

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