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    Being a Communist country/market isn't an opinion. It either is or isn't.

    Well... that's just like... your opinion, man.

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    1. China- If you still think China is really a communist marketplace, get out of the 1970s. China is a market economy.

    China may have a free-market styled economy, but that doesn't make them not a Communist country. China has self-declared themselves to be a Communist government since 1949.

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    China may have a free-market styled economy, but that doesn't make them not a Communist country. China has self-declared themselves to be a Communist government since 1949.

    I can declare myself to have brown hair, that doesn't mean that I do (I'm a ginger).

    It's totally contradictory. You can't be a Communist country with a free-market economy. Communism is a society structured upon common ownership. China is a free-market enterprise economy now. I don't care what the Chinese gov't "claims" to be. They are not.

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    It may be more of a free market economy, but it is still at the very least a totalitarian government.

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    It may be more of a free market economy, but it is still at the very least a totalitarian government.

    It's not "more of" a free market economy. It's a full-fledged free market economy. I talk to people on the ground in China on a consistent basis, and all they talk about are the entrepreneurial opportunities and the blossoming of the Chinese consumer (not to mention the potential housing bubble going on over there, but that's a discussion of its own).

    I agree that China's political freedom is behind the times (held up predominantly because they fear that political upheaval of the ruling party would cause economic chaos), but the fact is that their market drives their power. Once Xiaopeng modernized their economy in the late 70s, early 80s, China hasn't been anywhere close to the same. This isn't the 1960s anymore, and frankly, if those in power in China actually think they're Communists, then they're pretty crappy Communists.

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    China is not a free market economy. In a free market economy the only government involvement is taxation and ensuring that individuals can conduct business without hinderance. To my knowledge there is no such thing as a true free market economy in the world.

    If by free market economy you mean that businesses are run and entirely controlled by the people, well that isn't the case in China either. While they are certainly headed in that direction the idea that the Chinese government has a "hands-off" policy is just not so.

    Is the Communism in China the Marxist-Leninist version that is popularly thought to be what Communism is? No, and it never was. But to say that just because they let people own a business that they are not Communist is erroneous. Just like everything else, Communism is evolving, but that doesn't make it something other than Communism. At the root of their government there exist Maoist foundations that can not be ignored simply because they let people own a fruit stand or sell electronics on eBay.

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    China is not a free market economy. In a free market economy the only government involvement is taxation and ensuring that individuals can conduct business without hinderance. To my knowledge there is no such thing as a true free market economy in the world.

    If by free market economy you mean that businesses are run and entirely controlled by the people, well that isn't the case in China either. While they are certainly headed in that direction the idea that the Chinese government has a "hands-off" policy is just not so.

    Is the Communism in China the Marxist-Leninist version that is popularly thought to be what Communism is? No, and it never was. But to say that just because they let people own a business that they are not Communist is erroneous. Just like everything else, Communism is evolving, but that doesn't make it something other than Communism. At the root of their government there exist Maoist foundations that can not be ignored simply because they let people own a fruit stand or sell electronics on eBay.


    Like I've said, I talk to people probably on a weekly basis who are in China and living it (most of these people have also lived in the US). I know what they tell me, and I'm regurgitating it here. China's economy is changing so quickly.

    And yes, I'm referring to free market economies as we know them, not as they are precisely defined.

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