When will people learn

[andrewhoya]

That's my problem. Those people are flat-out wrong to do that. The TSA had absolutely nothing to do with it. The only thing they could have done would be to confiscate the box cutters and knives, but even then the attack could have gone on (with the force of 4-5 20-some year olds, airline staff could have been easily overpowered, with the terrorists taking any knives or sharp objects on board). The failure, like I've said, came because of the federal government being asleep at the wheel in a big way.

If only there were more Todd Beamers on the flights.

[duane1969]

If you want to complain about being shorted on civil rights (which they aren't doing........), head on over to a country with a dictatorship. I'm sure the complaining would stop pretty quickly.

Because I have it better than someone else does not make it OK to take away my 4th Amendment rights.

People in other countries are not protected by the U.S. Constitution. I am. Whether or not I have it better than they do is irrelevant.

By purchasing a plane ticket, you are agreeing to be searched by TSA.

Incorrect. My wife is currently on a trip to Portland and I made her travel plans for her including scheduling her flight both ways. At no point in time was it stated or implied that strip searches, full body scans or pat-downs were part of the deal. It also does not state this on her itenerary that was provided by the airline company.

Everyone goes up in arms when a grandmother or a toddler gets searched. Just wait until they dont get searched and were planted with a bomb by a terrorist and walk onto a plane.

Perhaps, but it won't change the Constitution.

[pghin08]

If only there were more Todd Beamers on the flights.

Agreed. If you're interested in 9/11, there was a great book recently released called The Eleventh Day. It's a really solid synopsis and critique of what happened on that day.

[Star_Cards]

it seems a bit odd that she got so upset about not wanting to be scanned or patted down. I guess we can't say what she had a problem with exactly. My experiences with TSA ( I just traveled yesterday has always been smooth.

[andrewhoya]

it seems a bit odd that she got so upset about not wanting to be scanned or patted down. I guess we can't say what she had a problem with exactly. My experiences with TSA ( I just traveled yesterday has always been smooth.

It is smooth for 99% of Americans. It's not for the 1% of the nutjobs in this country who just think it should be perfectly okay to walk onboard an aircraft.

[Star_Cards]

I get that people have rights against being searched, but for most people that have nothing to hide searches are a breeze and done respectfully. It's not like people don't know you will be searched when you try to get onto a flight.

[andrewhoya]

I get that people have rights against being searched, but for most people that have nothing to hide searches are a breeze and done respectfully. It's not like people don't know you will be searched when you try to get onto a flight.

Most people are even fine with being patted down. A woman in front of me had a hip implant and was perfectly fine with being searched. The security lady was professional and talked her through everything.

[pghin08]

Most TSA employees, in my experience, do their jobs well.

[andrewhoya]

Agreed. If you're interested in 9/11, there was a great book recently released called The Eleventh Day. It's a really solid synopsis and critique of what happened on that day.

I'll take a look at it, thanks.