Employers Add No Net Jobs Last Week...

[duane1969]

Not that I'm completely absolving Obama, but the citizenry needs to be smarter than this. When Obama said he was going to keep unemployment below 8% (which was a MONUMENTALLY dumb thing to say, as he really has little control over the situation), people should see right through that.

Remember, campaigning is often about raising expectations, while governing is often about lowering them. And that is a political truth that exists far beyond party lines.

Will they see thru the lies and empty promises this time? Obama is about to reveal his latest "new" plan to create jobs. Once again he is going to ask the American people to support him in spending $200-300 billion more. Will the people be gullible and support his new plan or will he be held accountable for his previous failure?

The real joke is this. Nearly half of the stimulus money is still unspent (some of which was supposed to create new jobs), yet there will be a proposal to spend more money to create jobs. Will anyone in government point this out? Will the people ever demand accountability?

[sanfran22]

Will they see thru the lies and empty promises this time? Obama is about to reveal his latest "new" plan to create jobs. Once again he is going to ask the American people to support him in spending $200-300 billion more. Will the people be gullible and support his new plan or will he be held accountable for his previous failure?

The real joke is this. Nearly half of the stimulus money is still unspent (some of which was supposed to create new jobs), yet there will be a proposal to spend more money to create jobs. Will anyone in government point this out? Will the people ever demand accountability?

That is one of my main issues with the Republicans. They play too nice. They need to hammer the point home.

[mrveggieman]

That is one of my main issues with the Republicans. They play too nice. They need to hammer the point home.

If what the republicans have been doing to our president is playing nicely I would hate to see what happened if the wern't so nice.

[pghin08]

Will they see thru the lies and empty promises this time? Obama is about to reveal his latest "new" plan to create jobs. Once again he is going to ask the American people to support him in spending $200-300 billion more. Will the people be gullible and support his new plan or will he be held accountable for his previous failure?

The real joke is this. Nearly half of the stimulus money is still unspent (some of which was supposed to create new jobs), yet there will be a proposal to spend more money to create jobs. Will anyone in government point this out? Will the people ever demand accountability?

The short answer is no. This was my point in saying that campaigning is about raising expectations, and governing is about lowering them. By holding Obama "accountable", as you'd say, would be to vote him out of office in 2012. However, what you're then doing is simply transferring the high expectations from the one who governs (Obama) to the one who campaigns (Perry, Bachmann, et al). We're never addressing the expectations themselves. We continue to believe that those campaigners are really going to change things, and will come through with what they say. The truth is that they almost never do. It was foolish for people to believe that Obama was the almighty savior in 2008, and it's just as foolish to think that Rick Perry could be the same thing in 2012.

[mrveggieman]

The short answer is no. This was my point in saying that campaigning is about raising expectations, and governing is about lowering them. By holding Obama "accountable", as you'd say, would be to vote him out of office in 2012. However, what you're then doing is simply transferring the high expectations from the one who governs (Obama) to the one who campaigns (Perry, Bachmann, et al). We're never addressing the expectations themselves. We continue to believe that those campaigners are really going to change things, and will come through with what they say. The truth is that they almost never do. It was foolish for people to believe that Obama was the almighty savior in 2008, and it's just as foolish to think that Rick Perry could be the same thing in 2012.

That makes perfect sense. My only problem is that if and I pray to God this dosent happen, Obama gets defeated in 2012 the republican canidate will not be given as hard of a time as obama got and he/she will essentially get a free ride by some of the people on here. For example after a year or 2 in office if there are no magical changes as you republicans seem to suggest will happen once obama leaves office you will say wait a minute he hasn't had enough time in office. That's real ironic coming from some of you who neve gave our president a fare shake even before he took office. SMH.

[pghin08]

That makes perfect sense. My only problem is that if and I pray to God this dosent happen, Obama gets defeated in 2012 the republican canidate will not be given as hard of a time as obama got and he/she will essentially get a free ride by some of the people on here. For example after a year or 2 in office if there are no magical changes as you republicans seem to suggest will happen once obama leaves office you will say wait a minute he hasn't had enough time in office. That's real ironic coming from some of you who neve gave our president a fare shake even before he took office. SMH.

This is just what partisans do though. They rely on either overarching themes/pure ignorance when defending their candidate. The Democrats did the exact same thing to Bush from 2003-on. Like Obama is to most Republicans now, Bush was "one of the worst Presidents ever". The Republicans defended Bush much in the same way Democrats defend Obama: "Give it time, it's not all bad".

The mindset of the general public is that the current President is always the worst one, until we elect the next one.

[duane1969]

That makes perfect sense. My only problem is that if and I pray to God this dosent happen, Obama gets defeated in 2012 the republican canidate will not be given as hard of a time as obama got and he/she will essentially get a free ride by some of the people on here. For example after a year or 2 in office if there are no magical changes as you republicans seem to suggest will happen once obama leaves office you will say wait a minute he hasn't had enough time in office. That's real ironic coming from some of you who neve gave our president a fare shake even before he took office. SMH.

I don't expect magical changes, just some changes. As it stands now, unemployment remains above 9% and looks to be headed back up, the economy is still failing, the housing market is just as bad as it was 2 years ago...I can't see where he has even made a dent in these problems.

What other job is out there that you can spend 2 years spending ridiculous amounts of money to do your job, accomplish nothing that you were supposed to, and still keep your job?

[pghin08]

I don't expect magical changes, just some changes. As it stands now, unemployment remains above 9% and looks to be headed back up, the economy is still failing, the housing market is just as bad as it was 2 years ago...I can't see where he has even made a dent in these problems.

What other job is out there that you can spend 2 years spending ridiculous amounts of money to do your job, accomplish nothing that you were supposed to, and still keep your job?

[duane1969]

LOL Yeah but he doesn't actually spend the money, he just banks it.

[sanfran22]

I dunno, His stats are decent...now if you wanna go this route, I'd agree......