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09-08-2011, 09:57 AM #11
I've spent more time studying and researching 9/11 than I have any other event in American history. I've come to 2 conclusions:
1. Conspiracy theories shouldn't be dismissed.
Personally, I don't think 9/11 was an inside job. However, the abundance of different theories DO house some truths, and just as importantly, pose legitimate questions that we don't have answers to. There were many things that happened on 9/11 that were pushed to the background (WTC 7, the truckload of explosives found on the George Washington Bridge, etc). Whether you believe in them or not, conspiracy theories are often helpful to research. There are things that I still don't rightly know the answer to, the most identifiable (in the past few years) example being why WTC 7 collapsed. I read the NIST report in 2008, and it's main claim was that the uncontrolled fires simply weakened the building to the point where it couldn't handle it, and buckled. This still makes little sense to me. I understand that the FDNY was nearly incapacitated by this point, but NIST even admitted that diesel fuel and the damage from WTC 1 & 2 debris didn't play a role in the collapse. A high rise building, with the damage and fires primarily on one side collapsing after an 8 hour fire? Unparalleled in history. But truly, it makes little sense in the realm of conspiracy. Because of some SEC investigations, they blow up the building? Doubtful.
2. The most fundamental question.
When deciding whether or not you feel as if 9/11 was an inside job, you're truly deciding the answer to this question:
Is the government totally incompetent, or is it hyper-competent?
To believe in a 9/11 conspiracy, you have to believe that the government is capable of carrying out the attacks themselves, and then the far more difficult cover-up. I studied government in my college years, and I can't at all fathom that they would be able to do such a masterful job. This is where the conspiracy people lose me. Capable of bringing down the WTC, and then successfully lying about it? Did you see how hard it was just to RAISE THE DEBT CEILING? Come on.
I'm certainly not exonerating the government. I'm of the school that the government was incompetent on this. There is far more evidence indicating that people within the FBI, CIA and Defense department were telling both Clinton and Bush, on a constant basis, that these attacks were imminent, than there is evidence that they actually went through with the plot itself. There were TONS of warning signs, and tons of government officials that ignored them (Condi Rice deserves particular mention here, as someone close to the situation that consistently ignored those under her who were warning her about it). There were people within the government who deserve credit, too. Tons of our appointed officials did there jobs, but were simply held up by those above them. Counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke was adamant about it, and did his best to raise flags to both Clinton and Bush, but was duly ignored. Ironically, he's the only official I've ever heard apologize about 9/11, but one of the least culpable.
To summarize, 9/11 was pulled off by 19 hijackers, guided by the likes of Osama bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, Ramzi bin-al Shibh and others. There are many unanswered questions about the attacks themselves, but one of them should not be whether or not the U.S. government played an active role. They are guilty of gross negligence, but no more.
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09-08-2011, 09:59 AM #12
Not true. Watch "Rising-Rebuilding Ground Zero" on Discovery. They're actually making tremendous progress.
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09-08-2011, 11:36 AM #13
9/11 is very different.
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09-08-2011, 01:54 PM #14
I guess I need to watch it. I just have seen what has been built in much less than 10 years and they are not even coming close to this. I guess a lot of that could be from legal issues that they had and the fact that they had to clear debris. I'll check out the documentary and educate myself.
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09-08-2011, 04:47 PM #15
Many families wanted to keep it as it is as a memorial I believe...
Plus you can't just come up with the architecture of a skyscraper and build it within a year.
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09-08-2011, 04:50 PM #16
Government neglect...very much the same...
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09-08-2011, 04:57 PM #17
Conspiracy theories are nonsense.
That being said, were there people in government who watched the attacks happen, and thought to themselves, "This is the greatest thing that could ever happen. Now we can do whatever we want!"? Oh yes.
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09-08-2011, 05:05 PM #18
The Government lies it's a fact...
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09-08-2011, 05:10 PM #19
Why Google an Idiot ?
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09-08-2011, 05:10 PM #20
When you can use a mirror instead?
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Originally Posted by Star_Cards 
