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    There is nothing extraordinary about a Christian other than they have transformed lives, can testify to how great God is, and are given the ability to realize where they came from. Other than that for the most part Christians are your every day person and are fortunate to bear the name. A Christian can be off track unfortunately and share God to others in a distorted manner. On the other hand Christians can be connected well to Jesus and be a bright experience for all to see.

    Man may create knowingly or unknowingly all kinds of ways to view God and people are not seen by God any differently than Christians.

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    This is wrong. Christians believe that God loves everyone equally.


    Some do however others feel that God's love dosent apply if your skin is darker than theirs, speak a different language, have most of the world's oil reserves or vote for Obama.
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    How exactly do atheists place limits on a deity that they don't believe exists?


    Yeah I had to include atheists so they wouldn't be left out but technically speaking atheists place limits on God by denying his existance but hey that is the job of an atheist.

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    Some do however others feel that God's love dosent apply if your skin is darker than theirs, speak a different language, have most of the world's oil reserves or vote for Obama.

    That is not a Christian teaching, whether they believe it or not.

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    Yeah I had to include atheists so they wouldn't be left out but technically speaking atheists place limits on God by denying his existance but hey that is the job of an atheist.

    I guess the lack of belief is a limit. what exactly is an atheists job?

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    Let me hit you with this. People of all religions as well as atheists like to place limits on God. For example he only loves christians, jews, muslims, hispanics, blacks, whites, americans, pakastianians. Or they may say he is limited only to the bible, koran, book of morman, egyptian book of the dead. I find it really sad that everyone wants to claim his as all powerful and all knowing in one breath but turn around and put all these artificial limits on him. I will never restrict God to one book, one nationality or one religion. As far as God relating to Tebow, I think that God is blessing him not necessarliry because of his religious preference but because he appears to be a good overall guy. Remember Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson and Herman Cain are also christians but most normal christians distance themselves from them because they are full of hate. So let me pose this question to the group once again. If Tim Tebow was excatly who he is the only difference is that he is muslim instead of christian would he still be considered an all american hero? Why or why not?

    I don't think he would be the all american hero if he was muslim and especially if he was as outspoken about his religions as he is now. Although are you saying he looks just like he does now and is muslim or is he a muslim of middle eastern decent? I think the two different scenarios would get different reactions from the american public as a whole. This would also have a lot to do with if he presented his faith out there like he does now. I believe that any athlete that would praise another god other than the traditional christian god in a public forum would have some sort of backlash. There would surely be a decent amount of americans who would be vocal about their displeasure of an athlete speaking about their non christian beliefs.

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    I don't think he would be the all american hero if he was muslim and especially if he was as outspoken about his religions as he is now. Although are you saying he looks just like he does now and is muslim or is he a muslim of middle eastern decent? I think the two different scenarios would get different reactions from the american public as a whole. This would also have a lot to do with if he presented his faith out there like he does now. I believe that any athlete that would praise another god other than the traditional christian god in a public forum would have some sort of backlash. There would surely be a decent amount of americans who would be vocal about their displeasure of an athlete speaking about their non christian beliefs.

    Are they vocal about muhammed ali?

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    Are they vocal about muhammed ali?

    They were when Ali was relevant.

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    They were when Ali was relevant.

    Really? I haven't heard anything about it besides his conversion and some of the backlash to ridiculous comments he has made.
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    I don't think he would be the all american hero if he was muslim and especially if he was as outspoken about his religions as he is now. Although are you saying he looks just like he does now and is muslim or is he a muslim of middle eastern decent? I think the two different scenarios would get different reactions from the american public as a whole. This would also have a lot to do with if he presented his faith out there like he does now. I believe that any athlete that would praise another god other than the traditional christian god in a public forum would have some sort of backlash. There would surely be a decent amount of americans who would be vocal about their displeasure of an athlete speaking about their non christian beliefs.


    Yeah I was going to mention his race but I didn't cause I thought that the discussion really would got out of hand but since you mentioned I not even going to ask if he was a star middle eastern muslim american athlete because he would have had a better chance as an openly gay athlete. America is not ready for an outspoken muslim middle eastern superstar athlete. Lets say this. Flash back around 25 years ago when tebows parents were doing missionary work. Say they encounter some muslims overseas convert to islam and raise tebow as a muslim. He works his way up the ranks as a star caucasian american muslim athlete. How would society react to him? Would they treat him better, less or about the same as they do now?

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