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12-12-2011, 10:29 PM #21
Pascal's Wager is a bunch of crap. Here's why (100% taken from another site).
The problem with this argument is that it assumes that there is only one valid religion, God, or belief system to choose from, that of Christianity. Well that just isn’t so as there are plenty of religions, Gods, belief systems, and spiritual practices to choose from. In order to apply Pascal’s Wager, one would have to do the same for the other religions and Gods out there, just in case they are true as well, or else suffer the consequences. For instance, the Christian ought to be a follower of Islam too, just in case it is true, lest he/she be sent to hell by Allah, the Islamic God.
Also, the second problem is that it assumes that the possibility that the Christian doctrine that “everyone is going to hell unless they become a Christian and accept Jesus as their Savior” is a realistic and significant possibility. Perhaps they think it is even as probable as the possibility that there is no God. However, based on the arguments in this article and in others linked, it should be clear that that probability is pretty much zero by now.
Finally, few, if any, disbelievers disbelieve out of choice. It's not as if they know God is really there, but somehow willfully refuse to believe in it (for example, see if you can choose to truly believe that Australia does not exist). Most disbelievers disbelieve simply because they know of no compelling evidence or reasons to believe. If you want to convince unbelievers, show them some good evidence or reasons. Don't just say it's in their best interests to believe even if there is no God. A person cannot sincerely choose to believe in something, just because it is pragmatic to do so. Even if you said all the right prayers and attended church regularly, that would still not be the same thing as believing from the heart, and any real God would obviously see straight through that.
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12-12-2011, 10:44 PM #22
My point was that he was an atheist, he doesn't believe a deity exist. Therefore, I was seeing what he thought about existence of a a god.
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12-12-2011, 11:15 PM #23
Possible but highly unlikely.
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12-13-2011, 09:53 AM #24
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12-13-2011, 09:53 AM #25
Let me throw this one out to our christian bretheren. Medical science has proven that a reduction in meat consumption is better for you. This correlates with some of the Kosher dietary laws. Are you suggesting that we should disregard the OT dietary requirements and medical science to eat things that have been proven to be not so healthy for us just because it tastes good? Remember no where in the bible does it say we have to stop going by the Kosher dietary laws.
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12-13-2011, 10:06 AM #26

i said nothing about eating things because they taste good. i said god, through his conversation with peter in acts 10, has done away with the old testament dietary laws.
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12-13-2011, 10:14 AM #27
Not disputing what God says but you don't think that he would want us to eat and drink items that would be healthy for our bodies?
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12-13-2011, 10:58 AM #28
yes. he certainly wants us to take care of our bodies. doesn't change the fact that the dietary laws have been abolished.
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12-13-2011, 11:01 AM #29
Yes, but in all honesty, non-kosher food is the least of our worries. With soda, candy, cakes, chips, energy drinks and coffe a part of nearly everyone's daily intake, it is hard to make an argument for kosher foods.
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12-13-2011, 11:10 AM #30

sorry you lost me at not disputing what God says but...
that said, yes God wants us to take care of our bodies. we are the temple for his spirit and need to act accordingly. But as duane pointed out, I see that as being more of an issue of not putting crab in our bodies that cause us to be unhealthy, die younger, etc.
also, i take most medical articles on food with a grain of salt. for every article that says (food a) is healthy, there is another that said the same food is unhealthy.
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