Are Ultimate Collection Debut Threads considered true RCs?

[wild4life]

I'm looking to pick up a good rookie card of Jordan Eberle and saw one of the above on the bay. Are they true rookie cards and, if not, what is? Thanks.

Dakota

[borcky90]

No they are not, still rookie cards but not true rookies, his true rookie is Ultimate Rookie Auto /99. Hope it helps!

They are still beautiful cards, I collect 10 11 Ultimate cards, I'd go for it anyways!

[RGM81]

No. They are an insert.

[wild4life]

Shoot. I'm looking for a decent rookie of his. The only one I have is OPC and, while that's nice, I'd like to have a card with a little more value. So, I'm debating between a YG, FWA or RTA...granted...I don't have a whole lot of cash and not much more trade bait.

[Wickabee]

I have an Artifacts RC /699 if you're interested in that, though it's not on your list. PM me if you are.

[wild4life]

I have an Artifacts RC /699 if you're interested in that, though it's not on your list. PM me if you are.

Hey, thanks for the offer. I think I'm looking for something just a bit better though. Here's a link to my traders: https://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1577643 I may be shooting for the moon here, but you never know. I just wish I had better trade bait.

Dakota

[Habitforming]

FWA alwas hold value. I'd be aiming for that one if it's possible for you.

[Jaso1199]

fwa alwas hold value. I'd be aiming for that one if it's possible for you.

+1!

[Slapshot4]

Are ultimate rookies patch auto consider rookie card because I have skinners how about the national treasure rookies also?

[30ranfordfan]

A true rookie card is part of a "base set". I don't mean base set in the sense that it's a common card.... but the main set, numbered like all the others. These can be auto'd, GU cards, serial numbered, short printed (or any combination of the bunch). Not a parallel of such a card either.

For Eberle - the only card that's part of the Ultimate release, and is considered a true rookie card, would be the Auto /99 that is part of the main set.


The National Treasures is a little bit different. IMO - No it is not, and it should not be.... but I would have also said the same thing about Ice last year, and many people still consider those (Ice) to be true RCs.

National Treasures was not a release, you can not buy packs of it - so to me, it's simply an Insert within Dominion. A really nice one, but still an insert.


I think the whole "true rookie card" thing is over rated anyway. Yes, I'm a RC collector too.... and I do value owning "true RCs" but being a RC doesn't mean it's a great card, and not being a RC doesn't mean it's still not a great card.