Question about buying on Ebay

[subban7677]

I have been buying cards on Ebay for some time now, and I am familiar with how the Buyer's Protection works. Question I have though is this...

If the seller has something along the lines of "If the buyer chooses not to buy insurance I will not be held responsible for items lost in shipping," included in the listing, does this mean the buyer has no recourse through Ebay or PayPal if the item is in fact lost? Or does the seller put this in there, crossing their fingers the buyer takes this as the rule and does not file a claim?

I have not (touch wood) found myself in this situation yet. Anytime an item had been lost in the mail the seller was gracious enough to send another one at their expense, but it is a "nice to know" if it ever happens.

I thank you for any responses in advance!

[icefields]

in my experience that statement means nothing.i believe the seller is trying to intimidate someone if a problem arises. it did for me once, i contacted ebay and was quickly awarded a refund. the seller has chosen the post office as his representative in the transaction, he must accept the responsibility if a problem with delivery arises.
we have a family member in a law practice and it is much the same as if you are in a retail outlet and you bump into a stand and break an item. the store owner is responsible to ensuring that this does not happen. he must secure items out of reach of children, out of aisleways where a customer could easily bump into it and protect your safety in such a situation as well. "you break it-you bought" does not hold true unless certain precautions are taken.

[RGM81]

Yeah that's a line that doesn't work. It's in PayPal's and eBay's policy that the shipper is responsible for delivery of the item. This is why you see so many sellers requiring shipping that includes delivery confirmation (and therefore more expensive) - they have no other recourse to protect themselves.

[centrehice]

The "You Break It, You Bought It" only goes as far as the threat, and flies about as far as the sign itself.

If you tried prosecuting somebody for breaking a trinket, you'd be wasting your time, and a whole lot of cash.

[13stepper]

I've completed almost 500 unique transactions on Ebay and have never once experienced a card i sold become "lost in the mail." There are those people who do purposely try to scam Ebay sellers by claiming they never got the card when in fact they did. Ebay sellers who sell items and ship without tracking (majority of them including myself because no one wants to pay an additional $15 for a tracking number) do take a significant risk selling on Ebay because they have absolutely no recourse if the buyer files a Paypal claim saying they didn't receive the card.
I do get wary when i'm on Ebay and see the comment that your mentioning in the item description. I think some sellers add that comment because they have probably been burned to many times in the past and hope that by saying they aren't responsible will persuade unethical buyers to go somewhere else.

I have not been burned yet (cross my fingers).

[centrehice]

The only way I've been burned is by Canada Douane Employees, and Canada Post Employees in Quebec.

I've also been driven over by Canada Post, had several cards get the Canada Post Tire Tread Treatment. Most cards made it, others destroyed after the Tread Treatment.