Indiana passes Right to Work Bill

[AUTaxMan]

That's easier said than done. Some companies play favorites. If you aren't kissing the right person's backside or if your uncle isn't the manager then if push comes to shove you are good as gone. For example my previous job was a sales job. I came to work on time did my job and pretty much kept to myself except for a few people that I used to talk to. One day the company decided that they didn't like paying us all the commission money they were paying us. I sales were based on getting good calls coming through. You know what happens next management sends the good calls to all their buddies and if you wernt down with the clique you were out of luck. If you don't make their sales quota out the door you go. So are you telling me that on every job that I work on that is non unioned I need to kiss the bosses backside to keep my job and avoid being fired?

Not all jobs are like that. Why would you want to work somewhere where you had to do that?

[tutall]

That's easier said than done. Some companies play favorites. If you aren't kissing the right person's backside or if your uncle isn't the manager then if push comes to shove you are good as gone. For example my previous job was a sales job. I came to work on time did my job and pretty much kept to myself except for a few people that I used to talk to. One day the company decided that they didn't like paying us all the commission money they were paying us. I sales were based on getting good calls coming through. You know what happens next management sends the good calls to all their buddies and if you wernt down with the clique you were out of luck. If you don't make their sales quota out the door you go. So are you telling me that on every job that I work on that is non unioned I need to kiss the bosses backside to keep my job and avoid being fired?

First off... If a business is ran that way it would be best to leave that business as it probably wont be around long. Second, I have a sales job and if you arent happy with your commission checks you are in control of them. Go find a new customer and bypass management all together. Third, a union really wouldnt have protected you in that situation as all members of a union are not created equally as they might lead you to believe

[mrveggieman]

First off... If a business is ran that way it would be best to leave that business as it probably wont be around long. Second, I have a sales job and if you arent happy with your commission checks you are in control of them. Go find a new customer and bypass management all together. Third, a union really wouldnt have protected you in that situation as all members of a union are not created equally as they might lead you to believe

That's easier said than done. My job was not set up that way. You were only given the leads that they wanted you to have. If you couldn't work with those then tough. It's real easy to say if you don't like you job then leave but much harder to do when that is the only thing that you have to feed your family and put a roof over your head.

[duane1969]

And none of this has anything to do with the Right to Work bill...

[mrveggieman]

And none of this has anything to do with the Right to Work bill...

Indiana passed the right to work bill making the state less friendly to unions and more friendly to business. I expressed my concern without unions watching over the best intrests of employees businesses can pretty much do whatever the hell they want to their workers just like what they did to me. SMH.

[Star_Cards]

This isn't about protection from getting fired. This is about unions stopping people who need jobs from getting them unless they join the union. The "Right to Work" bill stops unions from blocking non-union workers from getting jobs and forcing people who need a job to pay union dues and fees to get a job.

As far as I am concerned, being forced to pay union dues to get a job is blatant extortion. If an employer said "Give me $100 and you can have a job" then the labor commision would be all over him. A union says "Give me $100 in "dues" and you can have a job" and everyone is all for it.

I didn't think I said anything about protection from getting fired. I don't think people should be protected from getting fired if they are a bad worker worthy of being fired.

That is why I like this, because people are forced to join a union that is in the workplace they are employed. I think people should be able to look at the pros and cons of being in a union and decide on their own if they want to join.

[Star_Cards]

Not all jobs are like that. Why would you want to work somewhere where you had to do that?

I ask the same question. It's a bit like the equivalent of wanting to stay with a girlfriend that no longer wants to be with you.

[mrveggieman]

I ask the same question. It's a bit like the equivalent of wanting to stay with a girlfriend that no longer wants to be with you.

Ya'll are comparing apples to oranges. People want a girlfirend for friendship, compionship, other reasons but they do not need a girlfriend for day to day survival. If/when the cons outweigh the pros of having that particular girlfriend let her go. However you need a job in order to make money to pay your bills, buy food, gas, clothes, etc. If you don't work you can't make money to live. Unfortunately some people have to work jobs that they hate because that is all that is available to them at the time.

[duane1969]

Indiana passed the right to work bill making the state less friendly to unions and more friendly to business. I expressed my concern without unions watching over the best intrests of employees businesses can pretty much do whatever the hell they want to their workers just like what they did to me. SMH.

The Right to Work bill prevents people from being blocked from getting a job because they refuse to join a union or pay union dues. It has nothing to do with protecting or not protecting workers who are already employed. The Right to Work bill does not block unions from existing, just from forcing people to be in a union to get in a job.

Considering your typically liberal ideals, I can't imagine why you would support unions blocking people from getting a job because they don't want to join the union.

Being in a union should be a choice, not a requirement. Paying union dues should be something you choose to do, not something you are strongarmed into doing so you can put food on the table and pay the rent.

[Lynco Cards]

I also want to Know how much of the UNION dues go towards LIBERAL DEMOCRAT donations. I bet you would be surprised!!