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02-17-2012, 01:40 PM #41
Who is homosexuality really bothering? How does what a homosexual do with another consenting adult have any bearing on you and your family?
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02-17-2012, 01:47 PM #42
who said it did? again, i was stating that the argument that because something has been around since the beginning of time is not a good argument that something is moral or acceptable.
i did not even say anything about homosexuality being wrong. where did I say it had any bearing on my family?
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02-17-2012, 01:50 PM #43
As long as no basic rights are being infringed, the government should not impose moral values upon it's citizens...this thread confuses me...Is the original poster trolling us or serious?
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02-17-2012, 01:53 PM #44
sadly I think they are actually serious about it
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02-17-2012, 04:58 PM #45
No, I get what you're saying.
In my mind, something is only wrong once it hurts someone (or thing) else. Homosexuality does not do that and has been a part of human nature since the beginning. Murder does hurt others and has been around since the beginning.
There's the difference.
Where I think we're missing each other is that you're using only 1 criteria here, while I'm using 2. To put it another way, I, personally, have no problems with drug use. If you wanna destroy your body, I think that's your right. Many drugs lead to other crime, which we already have laws for.
But at the same time, the dealings, not the drugs, are the real killings and I totally get why many drugs are illegal, just for the fact of the body count that comes along with it by definition. To put it another way.
1 - Drug use hurts no one but the user and has been around for as long as people.
2 - Drug dealing hurts many people and has been around for a little less time.
In my mind, 2 is wrong and 1 is not. That's just me.
I realize that some reading this will agree, while other will vehemently disagree and that's fine. That's the fun of life. Personally I think the bible is a great book with lots to teach, but to me it's nothing else. I don't hold it higher esteem because it is supposedly (not wanting to start that argument) the word of God. I was raised reading the bible and continue to do so from time to time.
What bothers me when when someone says, "It's wrong because it says so in the Bible!" I think that's horrible thinking. Nothing, to me, is just so because the bible says so. To me if the bible says something is wrong, I need to find out why. On an issue such as murder, rape, theft, adultery, etc I can agree these things are wrong (special circumstances aside). I cannot, however, understand why the bible says homosexuality is wrong. The closest my thinking can come is that it goes against "Be fruitful and multiply" but I don't think we've screwed that one up to badly as a whole. The population is still growing.
If I see something in the bible without reasoning to back it up, I take it as something along the lines of the Mosaic laws that Christians don't follow anymore. Yes, it's in the New Testament too, but I still see it the same way.
As to the idea of Gay Marriage itself, I think if two people can meet at a bar and be husband and wife 3 hours later, or a man can have 6 ex-wives and go ahead and try for that 7th, why can't two dudes get married if they want?
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02-17-2012, 07:16 PM #46
God gave us free will and I don't think he wants humans to take it away. Remember Jesus know someone who commited adultry and told the group that was about to stone her (can't give exact quote) only the person who never sin can cast the first stone and that is one of the ten commandents broken.
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02-20-2012, 09:18 AM #47
John 8:7
King James Version (KJV)
7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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Originally Posted by mrveggieman 
