How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Paddington]

what do you consider over the top righteousness and christian extremism?

I'll answer that. He considers anyone who actually believes it to be over the top and an extremist.

[Paddington]

paddington, the passages are referring to the laws not the books of the torah

Those ARE from the torah. The Torah are the first five books of the Bible, which were written by Moses. They probably have a different title in the Christian Bible than in the Jewish Bible, but it's exactly the same thing.

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Sefer Torah at old Glockengasse Synagogue (reconstruction), Cologne


The Torah (/ˈtɔːrə/; Hebrew: תּוֹרָה‎‎, "Instruction", "Teaching") is the Jewish name for the first five books of the Jewish Bible. In Hebrew the five books are named by the first phrase in the text: Bere™™™™ ("In the beginning," Book of Genesis), Shemot ("Names," Exodus), Vayikra ("He called", Leviticus[1]), Bamidbar ("In the desert," Numbers) and Devarim ("Words," Deuteronomy). In rabbinic literature the word Torah denotes both these five books, Torah Shebichtav (תורה שבכתב, "Torah that is written"), and an Oral Torah, Torah Shebe'al Peh (תורה שבעל פה, "Torah that is spoken"). The Oral Torah consists of the traditional interpretations and amplifications handed down by word of mouth from generation to generation and now embodied in the Talmud (תַּלְמוּד) and Midrash (מדרש‎) .[2]
According to Jewish tradition, all of the laws found in the Torah, both written and oral, were given by God to Moses, some of them at Mount Sinai and most of them at the Tabernacle, and all the teachings were later compiled and written down by Moses, which resulted in the Torah we have today. The Torah was created prior to the creation of the world, and was used as the blueprint for Creation. [3] Most Modern biblical scholars believe that the written books were a product of the Babylonian exilic period (c.600 BCE) and that it was completed by the Persian period (c.400 BCE).[4]

[shrewsbury]

just for future reference wiki is not a good site to use as a reference

you are basing this assumptions on other jewish works, look at the words written, it states the laws and only the laws.

if you allow other humans to interpret for you, will you ever learn anything?

[Star_Cards]

I'll answer that. He considers anyone who actually believes it to be over the top and an extremist.

are you saying that anyone who is religious you feel are over the top and extremist about it?

[Paddington]

just for future reference wiki is not a good site to use as a reference

you are basing this assumptions on other jewish works, look at the words written, it states the laws and only the laws.

if you allow other humans to interpret for you, will you ever learn anything?

...But even wiki knows that the first 5 books of the bible are the torah. It doesn't take much tought here. The books themselves are all "The Law". The other OT books are referred to as "The Prophets".

[Paddington]

are you saying that anyone who is religious you feel are over the top and extremist about it?

Nope. I'm saying that that's what he thinks.

[shrewsbury]

you are yet again allowing people to interpret things for you, sure the jewish call these 5 books the laws, fits in nicely with the rest of the story.

but look at the words written, do not assume or play any other factors but the words.

so you believe this was written before creation and is the blueprint for creation??

really? god needs a blue print or even needs to write anything?

[cavaliersfan30]

PRAY that the HEAT dont win!!!

[Paddington]

you are yet again allowing people to interpret things for you, sure the jewish call these 5 books the laws, fits in nicely with the rest of the story.

but look at the words written, do not assume or play any other factors but the words.

so you believe this was written before creation and is the blueprint for creation??

really? god needs a blue print or even needs to write anything?

Nope, it was written AFTER creation by moses.

[shrewsbury]

Moses wrote of the history of the world before he lived

Nope, it was written AFTER creation by moses.

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