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03-20-2012, 09:22 PM #1
Assessing Value - Certified 11-12
Why doesn't (insert popular hockey card value guide) list a price for Certified 11-12 emerald, black or silver parallels? Outside of closely following e-bay, is there any way I can get a general sense of their worth?
Note: there is a good chance Beckett does list the prices and I have missed them. I'm pretty green when it comes to the card collecting business.Last edited by AaronSee; 03-20-2012 at 09:35 PM.
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03-20-2012, 09:30 PM #2
You should not use Beckett on here, they can get in hot water if anyone discusses it. Something with licensing. Thread will probably get closed.
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03-20-2012, 09:37 PM #3
I didn't know about the licensing issue. Regardless, does anyone have any advice on general worth?
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03-20-2012, 09:56 PM #4Hockey Advisor
Asking for beckett values isn't allowed (as the other poster said, it violates beckett's licensing policy). The problem with it is that you'd be asking for copyrighted material - material that beckett would like you to pay for - and someone would be giving it to you for free.
No problem at all wondering why beckett doesn't price something though... and soliciting advice on either how to find it on beckett, or reasons why they may not.
I have not subscribed to the price guide in years (online) nor bought a magazine in just as long.... so I can't really comment.... but without remembering the print runs on those sets - could it be that they're very limited? Beckett typically does no price cards with less than 25 copies. If they've got more copies than that, I would suggest going back and looking at the price guide for the baseset again. There may just be a multipler at the top? That's how they would do it in the magazines.
Other than that, I'm really out of guesses.
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03-20-2012, 10:10 PM #5
ebay is the best source for pricing . and its FREE
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03-20-2012, 10:15 PM #6
Aside from taking your soul
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03-20-2012, 10:18 PM #7
yes and fees... :(
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03-20-2012, 10:24 PM #8
Thank you for the replies... the emerald parallels are /5 so I guess that falls under not priced due to scarcity.
I have looked on ebay but it's a bit of a mess. A really wide range in prices.
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03-21-2012, 12:10 AM #9
Those "fees" are basically you paying rent for them holding your soul
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03-21-2012, 07:58 AM #10Hockey Manager
Generally speaking any card /25 or less doesn't get priced because there is insufficient market information. There are exceptions to that rule, of course, but for the most part they don't touch those things.
Part of the logic behind this is that there can be an incredible disparity between a card /10 and a card /5, and these low #'d cards don't really fall into the common pattern of assigning values to commons/stiffs/rookies/semi-stars/stars/super stars. I've paid more for some Josh Gorges cards #'d /10 than I have for some Carey Price cards #'d /6 simply because the Gorges card is from his rookie year and I feared at the time that I may never again see another copy of it. With Price, there will always be plenty more cards #'d /6 to hunt down another day. There's a number of niche players who have dedicated followings in the hobby and while their common cards (YG's, regular parallels, etc.) go for what you'd expect, if that player has two+ dedicated collectors you can count on there being a bidding war and the card outselling a superstar player's same card from the same product.
That's why assigning value to cards like that can be very risky business, and can severely hurt sellers. Say there's a card that Beckett isn't aware of that is super-short-printed but they don't really know the full extent of it. The player isn't anything too tremendous (just a 60-goal scorer on the most dominant team of his era) so they put it down as a $30 card. eBay seller has a copy and goes to list it at standard half-book price of $15. Instant BIN. New owner puts it up as a 99 cent 7-day auction and lets it rip, knowing full well how many set builders NEED that card to complete their set. Card sells for $2500. If you're the original owner of that card, do you have a legitimate gripe with Beckett for costing you $2485? Is it a $30 card or a $2500 card? Or should Beckett have just been more aware of the card's scarcity and avoided putting any kind of valuation on it in a pre-assessed situation?
BTW, the story here...is based on something that actually happened. Sadly, not to me.Last edited by RGM81; 03-21-2012 at 08:04 AM.
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