Jesse spewing crap again

[Star_Cards]

I saw a guy on TV last night who raised a good question that I am sure the left will ignore. He said that nearly half of all murders are of blacks and right at 90% of those crimes against blacks are committed by blacks and he questioned why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton never organize rallies or protest about that.

I did some digging and found a report by the Black on Black Crime Coalition that confirms the data saying that blacks account for 45% of all murders and other blacks are responsible for 90% of those murders.

So the questions begs to be asked. Why do people like Jackson and Sharpton dedicate 100% of their time to less than 10% of the cause of blacks being murdered?

I agree that it's a valid question. Although I do see that motive for a crime does make a difference, especially when it comes to what the typical media wants to talk about. I do wonder why guys like Sharpton and Jackson, people who have a path to the airways, aren't more vocal about black on black crime. That said, I know that sharpton has a radio show so maybe he does speak to that on his show. Just because we don't see them doesn't mean they don't speak about it. For all of the times we typically see him or jackson happen to be with the more racial charged cases. It may be that they do find these stats concerning but they just don't get the mainstream air time unless it's a higher profile case.

[Star_Cards]

maybe crazy people who call themselves a conservative, but as a norm we don't believe in murder.



as americans we worry about "leaders" who are racially motivated and unlike some of the "leaders" we care about all americans, not just whites or blacks

I'm not a fan of Sharpton all that much, but I'd bet that you could find a lot of clips of his that discuss black on black crime. Just because most people just see him in the mainstream speaking about racial polarizing cases doesn't mean that is all he speaks up about. The news outlets do decide what they want to talk about and unless it has some sort of draw to the public or some sort of polarization they usually don't discuss it a whole lot. It could be that jesse and al do try to get on to discuss the problem but just aren't given the air time since it's not a sensational story like the Trayvon case.

[duane1969]

Some people on here either just don't get it or love to spew hate. The leaders in our communities do speak out against black on black crime as well as other social issues. The reason why the media dosen't give it any play is that there is no controversy with it unlike the Trayvon Martin case. A lot of conservatives are actually happy with black on black crime because it means that at least one black person is dead and the other one will soon be going to jail. To all the conservatives out there please stop worrying about how our leaders are addressing our community. It's not that you care anyway.

I take offense at your implication that being a conservative automatically qualifies me as being a racist. Furthermore, nobody that I have seen here takes any pleasure in any form of crime. Everyone has spoken out against all forms of crime.

And I love how you flip the script. Everyone is supposed to be concerned about a travsty like Trayvon Martin but the minute that legitimate criticism of Jackson and Sharpton is brought up it suddenly becomes "your" leaders and "your" community.

So you are trying to tell me that conservative leaders like rush care about the black community? Get outta here.

Rush Limbaugh is not a conservative leader. I do not know of any conservatives that look up to him and follow his lead. He is a far-right shockjock nutjob that nearly all conservatives ignore.

[duane1969]

I'm not a fan of Sharpton all that much, but I'd bet that you could find a lot of clips of his that discuss black on black crime. Just because most people just see him in the mainstream speaking about racial polarizing cases doesn't mean that is all he speaks up about. The news outlets do decide what they want to talk about and unless it has some sort of draw to the public or some sort of polarization they usually don't discuss it a whole lot. It could be that jesse and al do try to get on to discuss the problem but just aren't given the air time since it's not a sensational story like the Trayvon case.

For arguments sake I Goggle the terms "Al Sharpton" and "black on black crime". I still have yet to find any quotes or video of him speaking out against it or criticizing blacks for victimizing each other. I don't doubt that at some point he has discussed the issue, it just doesn't seem to be that readily avaialble to find or that there is any decent quantity of commentary from him about it.

[mrveggieman]

I take offense at your implication that being a conservative automatically qualifies me as being a racist. Furthermore, nobody that I have seen here takes any pleasure in any form of crime. Everyone has spoken out against all forms of crime.

And I love how you flip the script. Everyone is supposed to be concerned about a travsty like Trayvon Martin but the minute that legitimate criticism of Jackson and Sharpton is brought up it suddenly becomes "your" leaders and "your" community.




Rush Limbaugh is not a conservative leader. I do not know of any conservatives that look up to him and follow his lead. He is a far-right shockjock nutjob that nearly all conservatives ignore.

So if a conservative leader like rush puts his foot in his mouth you dismiss him and say he's not one of us while continuing to follow idiots like santorum, o'rieley, herman cain, etc.

[Star_Cards]

For arguments sake I Goggle the terms "Al Sharpton" and "black on black crime". I still have yet to find any quotes or video of him speaking out against it or criticizing blacks for victimizing each other. I don't doubt that at some point he has discussed the issue, it just doesn't seem to be that readily avaialble to find or that there is any decent quantity of commentary from him about it.

I don't know for sure. I was just throwing out the benefit of the doubt. Sharpton does have a radio show. I'm not sure if it's five days a week but it's likely that he has a stance and has discussed it and doubt everything on his show is documented and available via a google search. Like I said, I'm not typically fans of either guys, but usually they are asked on TV to discuss specific cases and average crimes, even murders, just aren't discussed like cases of the trayvon variety.

[duane1969]

So if a conservative leader like rush puts his foot in his mouth you dismiss him and say he's not one of us while continuing to follow idiots like santorum, o'rieley, herman cain, etc.

I said that Rush is not a leader. Just because he has a radio show does not make him a leader. Howard Stern is a staunch liberal and has a radio show. Is he now a leader in your political party? Your logic is flawed.

And furthermore, you constant attempts to redirect discussions away from the subject and turn it into yet another thread bashing conservatives and labeling everyone a racist and hater have gotten old. Your opinions about Rush, Santorum and every other liberal have no relevance to this discussion.

[duane1969]

I don't know for sure. I was just throwing out the benefit of the doubt. Sharpton does have a radio show. I'm not sure if it's five days a week but it's likely that he has a stance and has discussed it and doubt everything on his show is documented and available via a google search. Like I said, I'm not typically fans of either guys, but usually they are asked on TV to discuss specific cases and average crimes, even murders, just aren't discussed like cases of the trayvon variety.

I don't doubt that he has discussed the subject. My point is simple. When you have a platform like he and Jackson do and you know that 9 of every 10 murders are black-on-black crimes, why not use your popularity and venue to rise to the occasion and try to create a change? If Sharpton and Jackson really, truly care about the black community why not target the cause of 90% of black murders rather than the 3% or 4%?

[mrveggieman]

I said that Rush is not a leader. Just because he has a radio show does not make him a leader. Howard Stern is a staunch liberal and has a radio show. Is he now a leader in your political party? Your logic is flawed.

And furthermore, you constant attempts to redirect discussions away from the subject and turn it into yet another thread bashing conservatives and labeling everyone a racist and hater have gotten old. Your opinions about Rush, Santorum and every other liberal have no relevance to this discussion.

Ok let me get back on topic. I agree with Jesse somewhat that blacks are under attack. It is nothing new. It has been going on for 400 years. Yes there has been some improvement but there is a lot of work to do. Black males are a target for racism, police brutality or even attacks from other blacks. Jesse is a leader in the black community, yes he has his flaws but we all do. No knock on any other race but who have the most knowledge and expertise on black males but another black male. I would listen to his ideas on what do in the black community before I would listen to someone who has no idea what it is like to walk a mile in my shoes. Also with Al Sharpton please try listening to his show before making blanket judgements on him. I listened to a couple of episodes of rush and was able to come to my own conclusion that he is full of it however if you give Al or Jesse a fair chance you may even like them or at least some of the things that they say.

[gladdyontherise]

Same old bit from Jesse Jackson. I don't understand how anybody could actually believe what this guy says. He cries the race card all the time when in reality, he's worse than anybody else.