Obama Using Executive Order To Circumvent Congress After Criticzing GWB For It

[MadMan1978]

No. And that was my point. Politicians, in general, need to adhere to their promises of how they will do things. Obama does not get a free pass because GWB did it. Obama ran on a platform of doing things differently.

Any politician who gets elected on a promise of doing things differently from his opponent or predecessor and then reverts back to doing it the exact same way is either A) a flat-out liar, or B) a failure, and either way needs to be recalled for incompetence.

This crap of doing something and then excusing it because someone else did it is getting old.

Well first I see no problems with it because it legal
and since the Executive order was established the person sitting in the oval office has used it.

[shrewsbury]

If the Republicans put forth a piece of legislation that showed the least bit of compromise rather than constantly grandstanding by passing bills they know are unacceptable, the Senate and Obama might CHANGE their ways.

we could flip that around and it would make as much sense

[duane1969]

So what is the excuse for them doing things the "old way" for the 2 years that they controlled all three legislative branches?

It's nice to make excuses for Obama failing by passing the buck, but the simple reality is that he has done things the way it has always been done from day one. They controlled the House, Senate and White House for two full years and did nothing of significance and repeatedly reverted back to doing things the way that GWB had done it.

At some point the apologist have to realize that making excuses for failure is just that, making excuses for failure.

[duane1969]

Well first I see no problems with it because it legal
and since the Executive order was established the person sitting in the oval office has used it.

So you take no issue with speaking out against something and then turning around and doing it?

[habsheaven]

we could flip that around and it would make as much sense

True. And therein lies the problem.

[shrewsbury]

True. And therein lies the problem

yes sir, you are right about that!

[pspstatus]

This is all politics as usual. Obama may be good in many ways, but he's still basically just another politician. It's a byproduct of a two party system. No matter who is running for President they always come from the same place. Career politicians with plenty of green backs to stand on as a pulpit to shove promises of a better future down our throats. Meanwhile like I have said before the only real goal of most politicians is to further the comfort of the other people sitting on green paper foundations. What we the people fail to realize is that if we united we could send a very strong message to all politicians. It would be rather simple too. We could tell them all that we are sick of being represented by the same good old boys by just not voting at all or with a coordinated write in effort with a simple word like fairness or equality, or two words plainly "the people". Let them know this is in fact OUR country and we don't like how they are running it.

[duane1969]

This is all politics as usual. Obama may be good in many ways, but he's still basically just another politician. It's a byproduct of a two party system. No matter who is running for President they always come from the same place. Career politicians with plenty of green backs to stand on as a pulpit to shove promises of a better future down our throats. Meanwhile like I have said before the only real goal of most politicians is to further the comfort of the other people sitting on green paper foundations. What we the people fail to realize is that if we united we could send a very strong message to all politicians. It would be rather simple too. We could tell them all that we are sick of being represented by the same good old boys by just not voting at all or with a coordinated write in effort with a simple word like fairness or equality, or two words plainly "the people". Let them know this is in fact OUR country and we don't like how they are running it.

Personally I like the idea of voting out every single current politician. Who gets voted out or in would be irrelevant as it would send a strong and clear message, either fix our country or we will kick you to the curb. Those who were voted in would know they have a short period of time to either get crackin' or start packin'.

I am also a bit tired of the concept that the incumbent is not challenged by someone in his/her own party. Just because they are currently holding the office does not mean that they are automatically the best candidate from their party for the job.

[Star_Cards]

we could flip that around and it would make as much sense

that's the problem. they act like they are two sides, when they are supposed to be a team. I personally see no way around having sides so it gets a bit old. They both have much more important agendas outside of them working for their constituents.

[pspstatus]

Personally I like the idea of voting out every single current politician. Who gets voted out or in would be irrelevant as it would send a strong and clear message, either fix our country or we will kick you to the curb. Those who were voted in would know they have a short period of time to either get crackin' or start packin'.

I am also a bit tired of the concept that the incumbent is not challenged by someone in his/her own party. Just because they are currently holding the office does not mean that they are automatically the best candidate from their party for the job.

Either way we do it, if the people of this country made a coordinated effort we can just like you say send a strong clear message to our government.

The thing I like about millions of people who would normally vote abstaining or voting with a write in message is that it will show that we know they are all frauds.