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    First this does not belong in P&R...

    second I am NO fan of the NBA over the last several years. they will excuse any behavior and almost set the stage for the behavior. However, I agree with the getting rid of the 1 and done. NFL has the best model for this 2 years of college or be a certain age. there is life outside of the NBA. they set the rules either play within the rules or play elsewhere. This is NOT about Race and trying to make it about is in really poor taste.

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    Basketball is a majority black sport. Tennis, soccer, baseball are not. So blacks are affected more by this rule than others. Nice try though.

    do you think the NFLs three year rule is racially motivated. I believe blacks are a majority in the NFL as well. I just don't get why the NBA would be racist towards a group of people who basically carry and sell the sport. Without black basketball players the game just wouldn't be as fun to watch. That is is you consider NBA fun to watch. that can be debatable in the regular season. Why would Stern want to alienate and make it harder for blacks to get into the NBA just because of the color of their skin? I don't understand how anyone would think that stern would want to do this as a way to punish blacks.

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    First this does not belong in P&R...

    second I am NO fan of the NBA over the last several years. they will excuse any behavior and almost set the stage for the behavior. However, I agree with the getting rid of the 1 and done. NFL has the best model for this 2 years of college or be a certain age. there is life outside of the NBA. they set the rules either play within the rules or play elsewhere. This is NOT about Race and trying to make it about is in really poor taste.

    You make a good point. Since when did every story about race become ipso facto a political story? Just because something is news does not mean it is politics.

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    You make a good point. Since when did every story about race become ipso facto a political story? Just because something is news does not mean it is politics.

    To veggie's credit though. Just think what this board would be if he wasn't posting "news" stories. Might as well just call it the Anti-Obama board.

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but don't NCAA rules prevent a player from playing college ball after they have declared for a draft? If so, then if a kid came out of high school and declared for the draft and didn't get drafted then he would kill his chances of ever playing since he would no longer have the option to play college ball.

    exactly, this is one of the major reason why they made it so that the kids would at least go to college for one year and want to extend that. There are a ton of kids who declared, possibly because the people around them told them to go unwarranted, and then didn't get drafted. Then they are left without being drafted or being able to go back to school. It's partially a safety net for the kids that get poor advice about their skill level and leave early and then can't go back to school. I see it as a benefit to the majority of underclassman who fall into that sector of college player.

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    To veggie's credit though. Just think what this board would be if he wasn't posting "news" stories. Might as well just call it the Anti-Obama board.

    Would that necessarily be a bad thing?

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    the stats of blacks locked up are alarming. i can see how someone can see as some form of racism must be going on. if it is i am unaware of it and certainly would not be for it.

    but this article does not seem to be anything other than an excuse for someone to tie things into racism.

    it might be unfair to some, but not because of their race.

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    to veggie's credit though. Just think what this board would be if he wasn't posting "news" stories. Might as well just call it the anti-obama board.

    +100000

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    To veggie's credit though. Just think what this board would be if he wasn't posting "news" stories. Might as well just call it the Anti-Obama board.

    Really all it is now is the Anti-Obama and veggie's "all white people are racist" threads board. I would be willing to do without the former if I didn't have to read anymore of the latter...

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    The article is written in a way that seems to endorse the sociocultural foundations of what the author calls "authentic blackness." Kind of a fatalistic basis for arguing that basketball is a necessary outlet for these kids. However, to an extent I believe that latter idea to be true, at least with how black urban subcultures have become so institutionalized (and isolated - there's a theory for this but I forget the name) in a sense. And the lack of socioeconomic progress for inner-city people has stagnated in part because of the romanticization of that subculture by others (i.e. it's "cool" to be ghetto.)

    And basketball is part of that. It's a career track. The sort of "quick, easy way out" mentality is exacerbated by the unsuccessful, if misguided, efforts to address socioeconomic deficiencies in these areas.

    Until those things are addressed in a more methodological way, basketball will continue to be a pervasive outlet for that mentality - which has energized the push-back against the age rule as such.

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