immigration

[MadMan1978]

Driver's license, SS card and handgun concealed carry permit.

Driver's license requires a birth certificate, SS card and a bill from a utility company showing your name and the address that you claim as yours.

SS card is obvious. Gotta have a birth certificate or passport and some form of ID such as a driver's license, military ID or health insurance card.

Handgun license requires a driver's license or state issued photo ID and an FBI background check.

actually Daune Drivers license does not require a Birth Cert an SS card at one time did not no idea...anyone paying into SS needs a number...a certain block

and NONE of those prove Citizenship in the US!

I see your connection but they do not
the following documents do
-Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth
-Previously issued, undamaged US passport
-Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth
-Naturalization Certificate
-Certificate of Citizenship


Now SB1070 for me is not that fact you have to carry someting for ID...yes you should at all times have it handy. The issue for on this law is they can stop for pretty much anything...lets be honest this is racial profiling at its best in my opinion...

Will be interesting to hear the Supreme Court Ruling on this

[duane1969]

actually Daune Drivers license does not require a Birth Cert an SS card at one time did not no idea...anyone paying into SS needs a number...a certain block

and NONE of those prove Citizenship in the US!

I see your connection but they do not
the following documents do
-Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth
-Previously issued, undamaged US passport
-Consular Report of Birth (of U.S. citizen) Abroad or Certification of Birth
-Naturalization Certificate
-Certificate of Citizenship


Now SB1070 for me is not that fact you have to carry someting for ID...yes you should at all times have it handy. The issue for on this law is they can stop for pretty much anything...lets be honest this is racial profiling at its best in my opinion...

Will be interesting to hear the Supreme Court Ruling on this

In the state of WV you need a birth certificate and at least one item showing your mailing address to get a driver's license. I don't know about your state, but here you have to actually prove you are a citizen to get a DL.

And the items I mentioned do prove citizenship because without the other proofs of citizenship they can not be gotten. By having them you are displaying that you have already proven to a government agency that you are a citizen.

[mrveggieman]

Driver's license, SS card and handgun concealed carry permit.

Driver's license requires a birth certificate, SS card and a bill from a utility company showing your name and the address that you claim as yours.

SS card is obvious. Gotta have a birth certificate or passport and some form of ID such as a driver's license, military ID or health insurance card.

Handgun license requires a driver's license or state issued photo ID and an FBI background check.

What if you lose or someone steals your wallet? I read that you should never carry your ss card around with you unless you need it.

[pghin08]

What if you lose or someone steals your wallet? I read that you should never carry your ss card around with you unless you need it.

I know I don't.

[shrewsbury]

What if you lose or someone steals your wallet? I read that you should never carry your ss card around with you unless you need it.

in ohio you need a copy of your BC to get a new SS card.

[duane1969]

What if you lose or someone steals your wallet? I read that you should never carry your ss card around with you unless you need it.

There is certainly that risk. However, I am one of those people that id OCD about my wallet. I don't even keep it in my back pocket like most guys, it is always in my front pocket.

Your SS number isn't that secure anyway. Look at how often you have to give it to someone. The only thing you secure by not carrying your card is that someone will not have your physical card. If they have your number it is pretty easy to make a fake card. Plus there are about 5 different variations of what the card looks like, depending on when it was issued, so fakes are that much harder to spot. I won't post links but it took me all of 10 second to find a blank SS card on the internet. If someone has your number and a decent colorjet printer they can easily make a fake card.

[MadMan1978]

In the state of WV you need a birth certificate and at least one item showing your mailing address to get a driver's license. I don't know about your state, but here you have to actually prove you are a citizen to get a DL.

And the items I mentioned do prove citizenship because without the other proofs of citizenship they can not be gotten. By having them you are displaying that you have already proven to a government agency that you are a citizen.

your Drivers license and SS card DO NOT Prove Citizenship!

Yes those are documents used to obtain those but I know for a FACT you dont need the to obtain them. So how does a teen willing with mom and dad get a license?

For you a a state issed BC proves your citizenship. the way you are trying to extend those to the drivers license doesnt hold up. Resident Aliens need a drivers license ...I assume...You dont need to be a Citizen to get a Drivers license. As well they will need a SS Number....

Proving Residence in a state is much easier then proving Citizenship. So the fact is the stuff you carry in your wallet...does not prove Citizenship.

Check your State I know in Mass they do not...

[MadMan1978]

and they are correct NEVER carry your SS card.

[duane1969]

From the WV Dept of Motor Vehicles

You must have 1 of the following:

• Original Social Security Card
• Wage and Tax Statement (W-2) or payroll stub with the applicant’s employer name and employer ID number, as well as the applicant’s name, address, and Social Security Number
• SSA/1099 Form (Social Security Benefit Form)

and you must have 1 of the following:

• U.S. Birth Certificate: An original or certified copy of a United States-issued birth certificate (U.S. Department of State and U.S. Military birth certificates ARE acceptable. Hospital birth certificates are NOT acceptable
• Valid unexpired U.S. Passport
• If foreign born, valid, unexpired Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Documents

and you must have 2 of the following:

• WV utility bills (not more than 60 days old)
• Tax records with a WV street address
• WV mortgage documents, WV homeowner insurance documents for a WV residence or proof of WV home ownership
• WV W-2 form not more than 18 months old
• WV weapons permit
• A Valid WV Motor Vehicles registration card
• WV voter’s registration card
• WV driver’s eligibility certificate (School Enrollment Form) if applicant is under age 18 with the applicant’s WV street address
• WV Homestead Tax exemption
• Proof of WV Public Assistance
• Residential rental or lease agreement
• WV DMV Affidavit of West Virginia Residency
• College admissions letter that shows the applicant is an in-state resident
• Letter from any of the below offices that show the applicant has been a WV resident at their facility and that shows the current physical address, letterhead preferred but not required:

• WV Homeless Shelter, Hotel or Job Corp
• WV Senior Citizens Home
• WV Rehabilitation Center
• WV Nursing Home
• WV Children’s Home, Orphanage or Shelter
• WV Battered Women’s Shelter

• Benefits letter from WV Health and Human Resources
• Check stub from any WV employer that shows a current physical address (cannot be hand written).
• Social Security benefits letter
• WV Professional License
• Letter from the applicant’s employer stating that all utility and house arrangements are provided by the employer
• United States Selective Service card
• Letter from the US Post Office that shows a new, physical, WV address assigned by the Post Office for the applicant
• WV Dealer temporary registration card
• WV Bank Statement, Auto Insurance or Hunting License
• License Plate renewal form
• 911 letter

And no, a driver's license does not prove residency, but it proves that I have provided proof that I am a resident, so for the purposes of a police spot check for residency I will be covered and it will be acceptable as proof of residency. There is no way possible that I could meet the above requirements and be an illegal alien.

[pghin08]

There is certainly that risk. However, I am one of those people that id OCD about my wallet. I don't even keep it in my back pocket like most guys, it is always in my front pocket.

Your SS number isn't that secure anyway. Look at how often you have to give it to someone. The only thing you secure by not carrying your card is that someone will not have your physical card. If they have your number it is pretty easy to make a fake card. Plus there are about 5 different variations of what the card looks like, depending on when it was issued, so fakes are that much harder to spot. I won't post links but it took me all of 10 second to find a blank SS card on the internet. If someone has your number and a decent colorjet printer they can easily make a fake card.

I thought I was the only one that did that. It's part safety, part the fact that I hate feeling like I have a crooked butt.