Poll Shows Appetite for Third Party

[marekschwarz33]

Given a choice between Romney and Obama, I will choose neither of the two. I'm a Ron Paul supporter who will be backing Gary Johnson (Libertarian nominee) in the general election.

I get the feeling that a large portion of Americans are fiscally conservative and socially liberal and that is something that libertarianism offers. I'm not a particular fan of the Libertarian party but they certainly represent my views better than the Republicans or Democrats.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

From the tea party website, their 15 core beliefs:

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.

2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.

3. A strong military is essential.

4. Special interests must be eliminated.

5. Gun ownership is sacred.

6. Government must be downsized.

7. The national budget must be balanced.

8. Deficit spending must end.

9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.

10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.

11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.

12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.

13. Intrusive government must be stopped.

14. English as our core language is required.

15. Traditional family values are encouraged.


What is socially liberal about that? Sounds pretty conservative to me. And why would the so-called "liberal media" want to paint socially liberal people as being socially conservative?

There is absoutley no "authentic" Tea Party website that would put stuff up like that . That is in no way the views of a tea party member . Although i would agree with 3 6 7 13 14 15 . What you have found is a bogus stab at the tea party .

[Star_Cards]

I feel that the more legitimate parties that are out there the better. Having two major parties doesn't give a very large scope of all of the different ideals that are out there on specific topics. Plus competition is typically a good thing. If the Reps and Dems know that there are other choices that could step in and take a position here and there they may be more likely to get their acts together.

[JustAlex]

There is absoutley no "authentic" Tea Party website that would put stuff up like that . That is in no way the views of a tea party member.

Sorry, you're wrong!

http://www.teaparty.org/about.php

^It's ALL there!

[pghin08]

There is absoutley no "authentic" Tea Party website that would put stuff up like that . That is in no way the views of a tea party member . Although i would agree with 3 6 7 13 14 15 . What you have found is a bogus stab at the tea party .

http://teaparty.org/about.php

I mean, it's teaparty.org. I figured that's about as good a site as any as being indicative of the tea party.

[themanishere]

Our politics have become so polarized that even if a third organization were to emerge, it would simply replace one of the two major parties in due time. It's a cycle of party politics.

[AUTaxMan]

Our politics have become so polarized that even if a third organization were to emerge, it would simply replace one of the two major parties in due time. It's a cycle of party politics.

i think youll see the fiscal conservatives replace the establishment republicans over the next decade

[duane1969]

http://teaparty.org/about.php

I mean, it's teaparty.org. I figured that's about as good a site as any as being indicative of the tea party.

Yeah, while there is no "official" Tea Party website that website def is not it. The one that I think most Tea Partiers identify with is Tea Party Patriots https://www.teapartypatriots.org/

The core principles of the Tea Party are a morphing of our government from one that is sticking it's nose into everything into a constitutionally limited government, a true free market economy that isn't inhibited by excessive government regulation and restriction, and fiscal responsibility by the government.

There are those who call themselves Tea Party members who make social issues such as gay marriage and immigration their platform because that is what gets the most media attention, but if you look at the true grassroots of the Tea Party you will see that the whole reason it started was as a movement to achieve a limited government and a self-sustaining economy. Social issues were never a part of the origin of the Tea Party.

If you go to their sign-up page you will see this...

Do you believe America needs a renewed focus on free market economic policies, fiscal responsibility and, constitutionally limited government? If you answered yes then you should become a Tea Party Patriot today.

No mention of gay marriage or immigration.

[pghin08]

Yeah, while there is no "official" Tea Party website that website def is not it. The one that I think most Tea Partiers identify with is Tea Party Patriots https://www.teapartypatriots.org/

The core principles of the Tea Party are a morphing of our government from one that is sticking it's nose into everything into a constitutionally limited government, a true free market economy that isn't inhibited by excessive government regulation and restriction, and fiscal responsibility by the government.

There are those who call themselves Tea Party members who make social issues such as gay marriage and immigration their platform because that is what gets the most media attention, but if you look at the true grassroots of the Tea Party you will see that the whole reason it started was as a movement to achieve a limited government and a self-sustaining economy. Social issues were never a part of the origin of the Tea Party.

If you go to their sign-up page you will see this...



No mention of gay marriage or immigration.

Gotcha. But in a bit of support for that website's credo, here's a Pew Research article (with charts, yay!) about the social leanings of the Tea Party.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1903/tea...tive-christian

Take a look at the second chart on the page. It looks like on social issues, the Tea Party is actually equally or even more conservative than the Republicans.

[duane1969]

Gotcha. But in a bit of support for that website's credo, here's a Pew Research article (with charts, yay!) about the social leanings of the Tea Party.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1903/tea...tive-christian

Take a look at the second chart on the page. It looks like on social issues, the Tea Party is actually equally or even more conservative than the Republicans.

That poll doesn't really show anything highly unusual.

*According to that poll, 64% of Tea Party members oppose same-sex marriage. The CBS poll released last Monday said that 38% of those polled support same-sex marriage (so 62% oppose or support same-sex unions, but not marriage).

*The abortion numbers are logical. Only hardline liberals think there should be zero restrictions on abortion. Most Americans, even moderate liberals, see the need for some form of restriction. Unfortunately the way that poll is worded it essentially places you on the side of either fully supporting or fully opposing abortion.

*The immigration issue makes sense considering the Tea Party position of the need for a fiscally responsible government. It's hard for our government to be fiscally responsible with 11 million illegals contributing to welfare needs, increased school populations and the loss of tax base due to under-the-table paychecks for undocumented workers.

*Gun ownership numbers make sense considering the movement is largely distru™™™™l of the government. I don't see why this isn't a bigger issue for liberals. Only the dullest of people truly believe that the police can/will protect them in a time of need.