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    the kid was a punk, he smoked and dealt weed, broke into homes, kicked out of school.

    but this does not justify a shooting, but the background of a person can help to understand what might of happened.

    i think trayvon confronted zimmerman

    i wish the call to his girlfriend was released, what he said to her can make all the difference.

    such as" oh my god i am scared, i am going to get out of here"

    or "oh my god this guy is going to get his butt kicked for messing with me"

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    the kid was a punk, he smoked and dealt weed, broke into homes, kicked out of school.

    but this does not justify a shooting, but the background of a person can help to understand what might of happened.

    i think trayvon confronted zimmerman

    i wish the call to his girlfriend was released, what he said to her can make all the difference.

    such as" oh my god i am scared, i am going to get out of here"

    or "oh my god this guy is going to get his butt kicked for messing with me"


    I've often wondered if they ever had that call recorded.

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    the kid was a punk, he smoked and dealt weed, broke into homes, kicked out of school.

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    I doubt Zimmerman was able to tell that just by looking at him.

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    so do i

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    I don't see how just having THC in his system means he was high. THC can stay in your blood for up to 2 days and urine for up to 90 days if you are a regular user. The key would be if the levels were high enough for him to actually be high.

    What I find to be more relevant is the pictures that were released that show the injuries to Zimmerman's head that support his claim that Martin was attacking him and bashing his head against the sidewalk. http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-201_162-...in;contentBody

    As far as I am concerned, these pictures will make it EXTREMELY difficult for the prosecution to prove that it wasn't self-defense.

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    I agree with you Duane. I find it completely plausable that Zimmerman was in a vulnerable position at the time of the shooting but the question remains; what led to him being in that position? And is that relevant to a self-defense claim?

    What I mean by that is this scenario. Suppose Zimmerman starts the altercation knowing he has a weapon at his disposal to fall back on if he starts losing the battle. Is that a mitigating factor in a self-defense claim? I don't know. Just putting it out there.

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    I agree with you Duane. I find it completely plausable that Zimmerman was in a vulnerable position at the time of the shooting but the question remains; what led to him being in that position? And is that relevant to a self-defense claim?

    What I mean by that is this scenario. Suppose Zimmerman starts the altercation knowing he has a weapon at his disposal to fall back on if he starts losing the battle. Is that a mitigating factor in a self-defense claim? I don't know. Just putting it out there.

    Entirely plausible. Sort of like the same thing if you're a teenager, you'd be more willing to start a fight with someone if you have a group of friends that have your back. Without a lot of eyewitness testimony, it's going to be tough for the prosecution.

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    It doesn't matter if Martin was high or not. Zimmerman's present sense impression that he was acting strange might be evidence that he felt threatened or that Martin didn't act rationally when the confrontation occurred. All I can say is that there does not appear to be enough evidence to support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.

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    It doesn't matter if Martin was high or not. Zimmerman's present sense impression that he was acting strange might be evidence that he felt threatened or that Martin didn't act rationally when the confrontation occurred. All I can say is that there does not appear to be enough evidence to support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Agreed, at this point. We will just have to wait and see what else is out there.

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    It doesn't matter if Martin was high or not. Zimmerman's present sense impression that he was acting strange might be evidence that he felt threatened or that Martin didn't act rationally when the confrontation occurred. All I can say is that there does not appear to be enough evidence to support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.

    It can be argued he came to these conclusions afterwards to back up his shooting of Martin. In fact he can say and do whatever he wants without Martin alive to argue.

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