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    I think your good friend accused you of being pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I have yet to see anyone on these forums that is pro-abortion, even amongst the heathens.

    I have seen a few who don't know the difference.

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    I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

    Abortion is a form of child sacrafice to many occultists, pagans and Drs like Tiller who worship Molech and other dietys. The heathen use "over population" as an excuse to justify it. (maybe the heathen have never been to South Dakota to see what under population realy looks like)

    The majoritiy of abortions are just the fact men and women do not want to be acountable for having sex. A sad thing is God gave us modern ways to be sterilized if people did not want to have children. You can also get your sperm and egg frozed then be sterolized and be able to have children in the future. But that is not good enough for abortionists if death is not involved. Occultists beleive "death brings life".

    In case of rape, the rapist should be executed or at least lose their freedom and be forced to work to pay for the child. Abortions are rarely needed to save the life of the mother, but that small number is often used by the heathen to justify birth control abortions.


    The bible makes it clear if you strike a pregnent women and she gives premature birth you are to pay a fine. If the child dies the person is to be executed. It also makes it clear, it is child in the womb, it is not a "fetus or parasite" as the heathen claim to justify murder.


    as an atheist myself I do not love abortion, as you claim above. I'm not exactly sure where you get that and I'm not exactly sure why you think it's only atheists who are pro choice. There are a lot of christian people in this country who are pro choice and think that abortion should be legal to some degree. Quite simply there are very small numbers of atheists in the United States and there are far more people who are pro choice when compared to the number of atheists.

    Another thing, pro choice is not the same things as loving abortion. it's not even close.

    Most importantly, as far as what the bible says about an unborn baby, fetus or otherwise, that really has zero bearing on what United States law should say. A religious text has no business governing laws in a country where we are free to believe as we wish.

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    I think your good friend accused you of being pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I have yet to see anyone on these forums that is pro-abortion, even amongst the heathens.

    well said. I have yet to meet a person who is pro abortion and never read where veggie was classified as pro abortion.

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    *In walks the heathen.*


    Not sure why you included this paragraph when you actually know the reason for most abortions because you state it below.

    God didn't give us modern ways to sterilize people. That was science. And again, why are you talking about occultists? Are you implying that everyone that chooses abortion does so because they LIKE it?

    Which is it, executed or given a job so they can support the child? I assume you are against abortion in the case of rape? That's good and consistent anyway.

    Heathens do not claim it to be a fetus, science does



    I included the Occult because the main people who pushed to legalize abortion in the first place, were mostly oculltists those who wanted open child sacarfice. Part of Socialist Eugenics movement became planned parenthood.

    By claiming "secular science" gave us steralization are you saying big bang told us how to do it?

    To answer your rape queston based on the bible. A rapist is suppose to be killed, but God made it clear if a man repented he wanted their lives to be spared. Even if you repent you still need to be punished for the crime you did. So it would only be fair to make the man work some how to pay for the child and compinsate the woman he violated. I have seen prisons with work release programs where ther man goes out and works then come back to jail for the night.

    Science shows it is a living breathing child, "secular science" calls it a "fetus".

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    I included the Occult because the main people who pushed to legalize abortion in the first place, were mostly oculltists those who wanted open child sacarfice. Part of Socialist Eugenics movement became planned parenthood.

    By claiming "secular science" gave us steralization are you saying big bang told us how to do it?

    To answer your rape queston based on the bible. A rapist is suppose to be killed, but God made it clear if a man repented he wanted their lives to be spared. Even if you repent you still need to be punished for the crime you did. So it would only be fair to make the man work some how to pay for the child and compinsate the woman he violated. I have seen prisons with work release programs where ther man goes out and works then come back to jail for the night.

    Science shows it is a living breathing child, "secular science" calls it a "fetus".

    The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.

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    The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.

    Really? I thought it was killed with the first post when he mentioned the "abortion-loving atheists"

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    Really? I thought it was killed with the first post when he mentioned the "abortion-loving atheists"

    lol. it was teetering. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a bit.

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    as an atheist myself I do not love abortion, as you claim above. I'm not exactly sure where you get that and I'm not exactly sure why you think it's only atheists who are pro choice. There are a lot of christian people in this country who are pro choice and think that abortion should be legal to some degree. Quite simply there are very small numbers of atheists in the United States and there are far more people who are pro choice when compared to the number of atheists.

    Another thing, pro choice is not the same things as loving abortion. it's not even close.

    Most importantly, as far as what the bible says about an unborn baby, fetus or otherwise, that really has zero bearing on what United States law should say. A religious text has no business governing laws in a country where we are free to believe as we wish.

    If you support abortion, that means you love it. You are either for it or agianst it. If you didn't love it, then you would oppose it. Being lukewarm on the issue, is just as bad as supporting it.

    The foundation of constitution was based the bible and at the time it was written a unborn child was considered one of those who had inalienable rights. Just as you are free to "beleive" as you wish does not give you the right to murder a child.


    Doesn't matter how many people claim to be christians that support abortion. The Judaists claim to be God's people as well, but neither of these groups can change the will of God and what He says that is good and evil.

    Agnostics, Athiests, Feminiasts, Liberal, Neo conservative, moderate all these groups tend to have the same goal-alliance. Reject Jesus and oppose the bible.

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    The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.

    So you are claming no one worhsips Molech anymore? Because we have satalites and TVs, human sacrafice went extinct? Are rape and murder extinct now as well, because we have cars?
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