Playing Chicken with Gay Marriage

[Wickabee]

Yes, I remember now, you did in fact answer this question before.

Sorry to repeat myself to you, I really did forget.....I've brought this questions to many christians in the past and their answers are very mixed.

Although yours is one I can agree with, IMO, it still violates the fact that a sin will always be a sin.

One can say that killing for the right reason isn't a sin, but it's still a contradiction to "Thou shalt not kill" (Well, to me anyways).

Of course this topic is dwelling on "Absolute Morality" and that is an issue which is never ending in the apologetic christian community.

I believe it's actually "Thou shalt not murder" not kill. But yes, the question of absolute morality is the one most people of faith struggle with daily.

And that's where I am today....with society.

And as a society we should freely think whether or not gay marriage is good or bad, and you obviously know my position.

You're with half of society. Remember, people of faith are part of society as well.

Anyways, this is a good debate......I'm talking about the philosophy of good vs. bad, right vs. wrong, religion vs. society.

Everyone's definition is a little different for all those things.

[theonedru]

So, if you're able to fully understand why the denial of gay marriage affects gay people.....

Why do you sometime criticize me when I go after the BIGGEST proponents of those denials.....christians!


There's a good reason (IMO) why I'm so hard on religion, they corrupt the mind, they manipulate the masses, and they are dangerous.

An individual by himself is generally a decent person only wanting to live in peace.....bring a lot of those individuals together, give them strict rules and the threat of an everlasting torment in hell, and they change in amazing ways.

Christians who are against gay marriage can't help themselves.....they really can't.

When I was a christian this is how my mind worked:

-The Bible (the highest authority on this planet) clearly says that homosexuality is a sin and god does not like sin.

-As a good christian I want to follow the bible.

-That means I reject homosexauality and I treat it like every other sin (murder, stealing, rape, adultery, etc.)

-Therefore, gay marriage is in direct opposition to the bible, and I must fight it, regardless how I actually feel about it.


^That right there is how my mind worked while I was a christian, I'm NOT saying that's how every christian's mind is, but many are similar.

Because you attack all Christians, all religions as evil bad horrible things/people. To you there is no moderate. You come across as angry in pretty much all your posts like your yelling to get your point across. Try being civil and eloquent in your approach and maybe you might get a little respect. Sure its ok to fly off the handle once in awhile, heck we all do it. Just learn moderation

[JustAlex]

Because you attack all Christians, all religions as evil bad horrible things/people. To you there is no moderate. You come across as angry in pretty much all your posts like your yelling to get your point across. Try being civil and eloquent in your approach and maybe you might get a little respect. Sure its ok to fly off the handle once in awhile, heck we all do it. Just learn moderation

OK, I accept your criticisms and I'll make sure to make better points in future posts.

Not because I want "respect", but because you are right that that should be the way you discuss.

[mikesilvia]

Those tolerant homosexuals ...

[JustAlex]

LOL, so you're posting that video in every thread now???

Maybe I should post the THOUSANDS upon thousands of HATE filled, idiotic videos of Christians!

[theonedru]

Those tolerant homosexuals ...

How tolerant would you be if you were told you were sick,disgusting, immoral, a freak, and those are just the terms I can use on here to describe how you live your life? They see people bullied, beat and even killed for living the same lifestyle as yourself. Kids are killing themselves rather than face a life of torment. And much of society turns their heads to this all. I would be a lot angrier than this.

[mikesilvia]

How tolerant would you be if you were told you were sick,disgusting, immoral, a freak, and those are just the terms I can use on here to describe how you live your life? They see people bullied, beat and even killed for living the same lifestyle as yourself. Kids are killing themselves rather than face a life of torment. And much of society turns their heads to this all. I would be a lot angrier than this.

Really? The homeless guy did all that? So, now it's ok to verbally attack a person because someone else wronged you? Not the best way to live your life.

It's almost comical watching gay men bullying a man for his lifestyle while complaining that they were bullied for their lifestyle.

[mikesilvia]

LOL, so you're posting that video in every thread now???

Maybe I should post the THOUSANDS upon thousands of HATE filled, idiotic videos of Christians!

Blow things out of proportion much? I posted in 2 threads and now it's "every thread."

Idiotic Christians, huh? You sound as bigoted against Christians as you claim Christians are to gays. Your words, not mine.

[shrewsbury]

though comments like "idiot Christians" can easily be deemed as a personal attack on us Christians, I must admit that there are idiot Christians, but not all of us. Those that complain about stereotyping are quick to do so themselves.
It's amazing how us Christians conservatives are the filth of the earth, but it seems most of the time it is others calling us names, stereotyping us, and making assumptions about us, not the other way around.

[JustAlex]

Blow things out of proportion much? I posted in 2 threads and now it's "every thread."

Idiotic Christians, huh? You sound as bigoted against Christians as you claim Christians are to gays. Your words, not mine.

Actually, I didn't say idiotic christians, I said idiotic VIDEOS of christians.

And there are plenty of them out there...


Now, back to the video you posted.....Imagine going through your life where christians constantly tell you that you are an abomination, you are a "sinner", you are EVIL, you're going to hell, you're ruining the sanctity of marriage, etc.

How tolerant do you think you're going to be towards this group?

I'm not saying that what those guys did was right, but It's certainly understandable.