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[iidaemmi]

It seems that ITG got its own smudgygateautographissue also:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-ITG-For...item5d356da179
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-ITG-For...item5d356da7a9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-ITG-For...item1e7355de57
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-ITG-...item2323c65ce4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-ITG-Fo...item2a243ec215
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-ITG-Fo...item2a243ec1ed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-ITG-Fo...item27cbe7a247
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-ITG-...item2ec28f7e34
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-ITG-Fo...item2a243eb797

Not as bad as Prime, but definitely some troubles with the marker.

Harri

[mortuus]

some of the red ones i saw looked preety bad. like this one for example.. bad pen or ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephane-Richer-12-13-ITG-Forever-Rivals-Autograph-Hard-Signed-Auto-/110964439450?pt=US_Hockey_Trading_Cards&hash=item1 9d5fef99a

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YVON-LAMBERT-ITG-FOREVER-RIVALS-2012-AUTO-AUTOGRAPH-/140866788273?pt=US_Hockey_Trading_Cards&hash=item2 0cc509bb1

the last one looks preety bad even on the scan.. its obvious the red ink is the problem, not that many blue have this problem even if they exist also as seen by above few examples.

[Gallinator]

I was going to bust a bunch of this but I started seeing some of those autos and will definitely scale it back to only a box or two, along with a couple of PC buys. What a shame to see this quality control issue, as I am a HUGE fan of ITG and this is nothing but disappointing. It will be interesting to see if the secondary market will command premiums for "clean" autos and if some of the poorer examples will become available for cheap later on.

[iidaemmi]

How many hits, I mean HITS, you got? I got 30

2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals base #87
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals gold #87 /30
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Double Agends #DAG-04
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Montreal Red #M-06 /130
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Montreal Silver #M-06 Silver /30
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Montreal Gold #M-06 Gold /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Toronto Blue #M-06 /130
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Toronto Silver #M-06 /30
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUJ Toronto Gold #M-06 /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Montreal Red #M-06 /6
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Montreal Silver #M-06 Silver /3
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Montreal Gold #M-06 Gold /1
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Toronto Blue #M-06 /6
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Toronto Silver #M-06 /3
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUP Toronto Gold #M-06 /1
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Stick Rack #SR-35 /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Trophy Winner Silver #TW-03 /85
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Trophy Winner Gold #TW-03 /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Quad Memo Silver Gilmour/Potvin/Roy/Muller #QM-04 /85
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Quad Memo Gold Gilmour/Potvin/Roy/Muller #QM-04 /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Rivals Silver Gilmour / Muller #R-01 /85
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Rivals Gold Gilmour / Muller #R-01 /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Franchises Silver Potvin/Clark/Gilmour/Murphy/Gartner/Gill #F-05 /09
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Franchises Gold Potvin/Clark/Gilmour/Murphy/Gartner/Gill #F-05 /1
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Decades Silver Roy/Muller/Recchi/Potvin/Clark/Gilmour #D-02 /09
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Decades Gold Roy/Muller/Recchi/Potvin/Clark/Gilmour #D-02 /1
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals GUMemo & Auto #MA-DG /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Trophy Winners J & Auto #TWA-DG /10
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Autographs SP #A-DG
2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Dual Auto Muller / Gilmour SP #DA-DGKM

Happy collecting.

harri

[iidaemmi]

Keon/Beliveau. Gilmour/Muller and Salming/Robinson dual hard-signed cards are really cool.





Brian Price

You mean this autograph: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOUG-GILMOUR...item1c2c63b32b

It was a great autograph card when it was signed, not anymore

Harri

[andrewconnors9]

its just the surface type on these cards doesnt really hold well with the type of ink. This stuff happens but hey, still nice to have a beauty ITG set with hard signed autos, id rather a little bubbling than a sticker.

[iidaemmi]

its just the surface type on these cards doesnt really hold well with the type of ink. This stuff happens but hey, still nice to have a beauty ITG set with hard signed autos, id rather a little bubbling than a sticker.

In my opinion this is one of the bests Gilmour cards for a long time, or it was. I hate stickers, but I still take it any day with sticker than faded/smudgy autograph. This one hurts.. a lot. It's also very expensive card, do I wanna drop some serious coins to this. I don't know.

Harri

[mortuus]

Its a shame, it really looks like the pen was almost empty or something , i mean dont the card companies test some dummy cards before they send them out? And i think overtime it will get worse but overall it looks bad even if its a nice card you cant ignore the problem. It shouldnt happen, i can imagine pulling a card like that you get a little dissapointed how it looks.

[centrehice]

Some of those bad red autos are not Ink Markers like a Sharpie or a Jiffy Marker, they are those water based markers. In about 5 years the auto will be completely gone.

[odjickfan]

Some of those bad red autos are not Ink Markers like a Sharpie or a Jiffy Marker, they are those water based markers. In about 5 years the auto will be completely gone.

If that's the case, that's really bad. Everything else from that product was exceptionnal.

I hope ITG does research for better pens for autograph cards.