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01-23-2006, 04:09 PM #11
its pathetic when he scores 81 and still gets ripped on...and his team isnt rele a team.. no on on the team is a scorer other then #8... odom looks to pass pass pass and shoot like 10 shots agame.. mihm rarely shoots along with kwame...smush mite get his 10 shots as well... the bench doesnt have any scorers,,, some 3 pt shooters but no scorers... kobe has to score for his team to win.... it was kobe vs the raptors and kobe basically won it for his team... mj had to do the same thing back when he had no one around him if ppl remember that
kobes just plain amazing
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01-23-2006, 04:23 PM #12
Originally Posted by kobe847
Of course they are a team, it's just that the offense is centered around Kobe. They may not have high volume scorers other than him, agreed, but Odom is still capable. He averaged 14 shots a game his first two full seasons with the Clippers and 14 a game in his one year in Miami; he now has averaged roughly 12 a game since coming to LA. Did Lamar "suddenly" and "magically" become less aggressive by two full shots a game on average, or is it the system he's asked to play in that has him shooting less?
Originally Posted by kobe847
He got tired of it after awhile though and became a champion with a better team after people kept getting on his back for scoring and not winning. Kobe's career has been the reverse; he was a champion rather early but now his primary focus is scoring titles. I am amazed at his scoring ability as any person, but let's face it, he wanted to be the #1 guy and to say "oh his poor team isn't as good any more" doesn't cut it when realizing that the team is what it is due in part to his own fault. Pippen could have quarreled with MJ as much as Shaq and Kobe quarreled but chose not to and probably will end up with more rings because of it unless Kobe decides soon that being a 35 ppg scorer on a mediocre team isn't as great as playing for a title contending team where he has to share the wealth a little bit more.
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01-23-2006, 04:41 PM #13
Originally Posted by spoodini
lol.
Gotta give respect where respect is due, he is an amazing play and this is coming from a A.I. fan.
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01-23-2006, 06:26 PM #14
Yeah he shouldn't get ripped on at all for just doing his job. Its not his fault the rest of the team sucks and he is good.
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01-23-2006, 07:09 PM #15
I watched both games in full when he scored 62 vs Dallas in 3 quarters, and this 81 point game.
Objectively, I think he was ball-hogging in the Dallas game. But I think he actually did what he had to do in this Toronto game. Toronto was actually winning by 16 or 18 points in the 3rd quarter. No one (besides Kobe) was doing anything on offense or defense. So he decided to take over. Even the announcers said that his offense energized the whole Laker team...who were sleep-walking til then.
I can understand why some people do not like Kobe as a person. Heck my wife doesn't even like him. But yesterday, he dropped 81. Wow.
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01-23-2006, 07:42 PM #16
many feel his 81 yesterday was a better accomplishment then wilts.. because he did it today and because wilt was so much bigger then everyone at his time...wasnt fair
thats what some experts are saying
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01-23-2006, 07:45 PM #17
Originally Posted by LakersMC
You picked out the perfect point, I also saw both games in full (like every Laker game, lol), against Dallas he just was on FIRE and he couldn't miss so he hogged the ball and scored 62 in 3 quarters, I actually believe he played better in the Dallas game. In Toronto, he did what he had to do for his team to win, HE ISNT IN IT FOR A SCORING TITLE!!!! He has a desire and passion for the game that is uncomparable. So get over dissing him, MJ did the sme thing with his wife, i'm not saying that you should like him as a person (Believe me he is a great guy, my friend has met him and he raves about how nice he is), I'm just saying that you guys should respect how he plays 110% every game, and does what he has in his abilities for his team to win.
kobe for mvp (most valuable player in case ya forgot) and he indeed is the most valuable.
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01-23-2006, 08:06 PM #18
Originally Posted by new8403
wow, jordan just had a "mistress" for years, so i take it you dont like jordan even though you said kobe is just a wanna be jordan who will never be like him?
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01-23-2006, 08:17 PM #19
i hate kobe as a person don't respect him as a person...but since we're talking abouthis 81 points that was amazing...but i would rather see some one put up something like 30 assists or maybe 35 rebounds...points show your a ball hog
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01-23-2006, 08:21 PM #20
Originally Posted by Kobe12
The situation does not have to be an either-or argument. I believe Kobe did what it took to win the game, but no one can tell me that he isn't in it for a scoring title as well, especially considering that it has come out of his mouth before that he is indeed interested in a scoring title.
This reminds me of another fallacy I saw in a poll on Yahoo: is Kobe a ballhog or just unstoppable? They don't offer the option that he could be *both*. As an English major, I readily notice mistakes in written conceptual analysis like that. It's just plain bad rhetoric.
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