The Official Democratic Party Platform

[shrewsbury]

alex, how are the stats against me? i said unprotected sex, nothing about marriage or abstinence.

I guarantee, that on average, people who use protection on a regular basis have less pregnancies than those that don't.

veggie, I agree with you!!

[JustAlex]

alex, how are the stats against me? i said unprotected sex, nothing about marriage or abstinence.

I guarantee, that on average, people who use protection on a regular basis have less pregnancies than those that don't.

veggie, I agree with you!!

Too bad that the GOP don't agree with you....

[tutall]

TAXES - the only thing Obama has pledged not to raise is income taxes... We have already seen a ton of new taxes come down the pipe that percentage wise affect the lower/middle class a whole lot more than the upper class... There are also a lot of new tax breaks not being given out in the near future that would affect the same group.

Gay Marriage - I could care less... I personally believe marriage has and always will be a religious thing but if gays want a piece of paper also saying they can have the same rights a straight couples who am I to disagree?

Immigration - You can never convince me it is a good idea to let criminals live here... Every illegal alien living in America right now has commited a crime... a crime in which if we broke going into Mexico there would be consequences for. I am not for limiting immigration at all... I am for making a process more efficient and one that is possible to get through without bribes and money taking root in the process.

Health Care - We will have to agree to digagree on this one... Just because they set something in action does not make it better than the old system. To many people think this is a free program... WRONG. It is people like me paying for someone elses health care because of decisions which a lot of times they or their parents have made. I have never lived a day in my life without insurance and dont plan to ever. At the same time that is a choice I have made to always have healthcare and put it above any cell phone or 245 channel tv package. It kills me the same people on state healthcare are the ones who call their doctor from their 400 dollar IPhone

Defense - You can say whatever you want about defense... Fact is nothing will ever change in the middle east whether we are there or not. I would prefer to stay with israel as they may be able to defend against Iran but if pulled into a bigger war with Russia, China, Etc we would have to get involved anyways... Might as well try to nip it before it gets that big


I see a recurring theme of your post is small government... Except the part about healthcare? So you must be ok with small healthcare as long as it is in the arenas that make your point more valid. I am for sweeping cuts in almost all government programs... Not a complete cut in items such as medicare and SS but a huge cut and limits on certain benefits... Shorten Unemployment (its amazing how many jobs are available right as someone hits the end of their checks coming) Many want to see drug testing in social security... I think that would be a waste of time as it isnt really feasible to administer regular drug tests to that large of a group of people. I would like to see however people on disability get some sort of work and pay they cannot get because of a disability possibly subsidized... but at least try to get a lot of the off benefits and into a contributing role. Obviously this is not right for some people but a large group of people are only disabled because their parents have told them they are for the first 18 years of their life.

[shrewsbury]

I here that, same with the dems, i seem to be in no mans land.

[texansrangerfan73]

And of course the MOST teen pregnancies are in:



^The Bible belt where Jebus is king!!!



And Of course the lowest are in the "Liberal" states where they teach Sex education in school.....but I'm sure all of this is pure coincidence!

So by this graph it's basically the South & the South West? Hard to believe NY isn't one nor is Ill which has Chicago, go figure.

[JustAlex]

I see a recurring theme of your post is small government... Except the part about healthcare? So you must be ok with small healthcare as long as it is in the arenas that make your point more valid. I am for sweeping cuts in almost all government programs... Not a complete cut in items such as medicare and SS but a huge cut and limits on certain benefits... Shorten Unemployment (its amazing how many jobs are available right as someone hits the end of their checks coming) Many want to see drug testing in social security... I think that would be a waste of time as it isnt really feasible to administer regular drug tests to that large of a group of people. I would like to see however people on disability get some sort of work and pay they cannot get because of a disability possibly subsidized... but at least try to get a lot of the off benefits and into a contributing role. Obviously this is not right for some people but a large group of people are only disabled because their parents have told them they are for the first 18 years of their life.

Yes, that's my point, in some issues government should stay clear away such as gay marriage, abortion, and the internet.

On other issues, we need the government for help such as taxes, agencies that are created to regulate CORRUPT corporations, and yes I believe we should have SOCIALIZED (OH NOES, I'm must be a socialist, communist, satanic, liberal!!!!) health care.

Because all we have to do is see Canada's and Europe's health Care and we immediately see they pay less and is more effective than the U.S.

[shrewsbury]

so lets take this one step at a time.

the internet

what role would the government play and what role should they not play? remember who the FCC is, and how deep they have their hands in the telecommunications industry.

abortion

so if the government should stay out of it, does this mean mandates making insurance providers to cover abortions be thrown out? or our tax dollars going to abortion related groups in forms of grants should be stopped? or those on government health care should not be allowed to get abortions under their coverage, meaning they pay full out of pocket expenses?

gay marriage

so again we look at tax breaks, health insurance, and life insurance. should company's get to decide if they will recognize gay marriages without any backlash? and if so, can they alter they policies about hetero marriages?

socialized health care would not be needed if our economy was stronger and more jobs are created. the more jobs the more taxes that are paid and used for those that really need it, the rest of us can pay for it ourselves. of course this is going to require many things including cuts in spending, equal taxation, and tax breaks.

[JustAlex]

so lets take this one step at a time.

OK....


the internet

what role would the government play and what role should they not play? remember who the FCC is, and how deep they have their hands in the telecommunications industry.

The government should have ZERO or a very little role on the internet.....the internet does not belong to the U.S, it can not be regulated the same way TV and radio can. Of course that isn't to say that people who commit crimes on the internet can't be prosecuted, but the way the internet is now is good enough, there should not be anything done about it.

abortion

so if the government should stay out of it, does this mean mandates making insurance providers to cover abortions be thrown out? or our tax dollars going to abortion related groups in forms of grants should be stopped? or those on government health care should not be allowed to get abortions under their coverage, meaning they pay full out of pocket expenses?

Um....can you please show me where tax dollars are being used for abortions? And Yes, I agree that abortions should be paid full pocket UNLESS it is the type where the mother's life is in mortal danger.

gay marriage

so again we look at tax breaks, health insurance, and life insurance. should company's get to decide if they will recognize gay marriages without any backlash? and if so, can they alter they policies about hetero marriages?

I don't understand this, gay marriage wouldn't be something special or different, it would be REGULAR marriage, just like the SCOTUS ruled in 1967 to make INTERRACIAL marriage legal, nothing changed.

socialized health care would not be needed if our economy was stronger and more jobs are created. the more jobs the more taxes that are paid and used for those that really need it, the rest of us can pay for it ourselves. of course this is going to require many things including cuts in spending, equal taxation, and tax breaks.

How exactly would that work? There are millions of Americans who can't get health insurance because of pre existing conditions, and millions more can't afford it! Don't you think we should live in a society where EVERY SINGLE person gets the health care they deserve? Don't you think that human life whether rich or poor, black or white, christian or non-christian is equal? If so, then you would be in favor of making it possible to have a system similar to the UK NHS (National Health Service).

I know that if I lived in the UK, I would happily pay my share of taxes to support a system that provides proper care to EVERYONE....that is a very humanistic way to look at it......here in the U.S we look at it with DOLLAR SIGNS in our eyes, and of course insurance companies would go out of business if we had socialized medicine. So they Lobby with millions upon millions of dollars in order to fight it tooth and nail!

I know this is off topic, but can you imagine a world where we didn't use gasoline to run our cars? Can you imagine what the billionaire oil corporations would do to fight against that......this is what happens in a capitalistic society, human welfare is second compared to PROFIT$

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