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    By The Numbers: 2011/12 The Cup

    *EDIT* Download my makeshift spreadsheet version HERE
    DOWNLOAD CHECKLIST WITH TEAM CHECKLISTS HERE (PDF FORMAT, TEAMS START IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER ON PAGE 2)

    Upon the checklist being released, I went hard at work crunching some numbers for The Cup... Some more shocking than others. I'll add more tomorrow with teams and such, but I must say... There are a ton of cards. We can safely put to rest that this year, baring more than 5 cards a tin, this is not as shortprinted as previous years, but instead has the most cards with the additions of the SPA Extended Series adding 4 more plates per rookie, the new rookie tags and rookie black autos /5, and update cards. Also, without a print run on the Rookie Evolutions (probably video cards), I went ahead and Guess-timated the print run at 25 per card because it seems the closest. Anyways, without further ado, here are the first numbers I crunched out:


    *REVISED OFF BY A FEW CARDS*
    Total Cards Assuming Rookie Evolutions /25: 85,976
    Total 1/1s NOT including plates: 541
    Total 1/1s Including Plates: 3,973
    Total Shields: 176
    Total Property Ofs: 53

    Assuming there are 6 cards per tin in every tin (No decoys making it 5 cards), the lowest amount of tins produced is: 14,330
    Divide this by 6 and the amount of cases you have is 2,389. That's the lowest possible amount. If there are decoys it will be much higher.

    Odds of getting a 1/1 (No Plates):
    This is assuming you get 2 base per tin and 1 rookie patch auto, leaving the other 3 hits undetermined: 1.44%, in other words 14 tins in 1000 will carry a true 1/1 (Shield, Property of, Base Tag /1, Base /1, Rookies /1, randoms /1, Cuts /1)

    Odds of getting a 1/1 (With Plates): 10.6%.
    That's right, including plates, less than every 10 tins will contain a 1/1.
    Last edited by flopfish; 09-11-2012 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Added checklist download

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    For everyone going into The Cup team breaks, this post is for you. This is probably the most indepth resource you will ever find, and I am very, very proud to have done it :) If you post this on another site, it'd mean a lot if you could give some credit to me for it, as I am on hour 7 of piecing it together!

    What this is: It's a list of all of the times a team will have a player appear on a card for them (Assuming Canada cards go to their current team or to the team they played the most on.) It's not the amount of cards like they have 5 base, 3 RPAs, etc, it's the TOTAL PRINT RUN on all of the cards their team appears on. No odds are given (i.e. if they have a triple card with two players from their team on it, it's only one time.)




    Anaheim Ducks
    2820
    Boston Bruins
    3850
    Buffalo Sabres
    3911
    Calgary Flames
    2611
    Carolina Hurricanes
    1308
    Chicago Blackhawks
    4787
    Colorado Avalanche
    4138
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    3435
    Dallas Stars
    1820
    Detroit Red Wings
    3578
    Edmonton OIlers
    5891
    Florida Panthers
    491
    Los Angeles Kings
    2448
    Minnesota Wild
    623
    Montreal Canadiens
    4741
    Nashville Predators
    2392
    New Jersey Devils
    3425
    New York Islanders
    2424
    New York Rangers
    3383
    Ottawa Senators
    2665
    Philadelphia Flyers
    4887
    Phoenix Coyotes
    1040
    Pittsburgh Penguins
    6150
    St. Louis Blues
    1082
    San Jose Sharks
    1953
    Tampa Bay Lightning
    1497
    Toronto Maple Leafs
    2622
    Vancouver Canucks
    3519
    Washington Capitals
    2385
    Winnipeg Jets
    1812


    There are the cards per team, total print run
    Last edited by flopfish; 09-11-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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    Updated with more accurate info.

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    "Assuming there are 6 cards per tin in every tin (No decoys making it 5 cards), the lowest amount of tins produced is: 14,330
    Divide this by 6 and the amount of cases you have is 2,389. That's the lowest possible amount. If there are decoys it will be much higher."


    Wow, that's a lot of cases....

    This is why I love 1990-91 Bowman and Topps Tiffany. Only 400 cases total of each product made.

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    wow! great info Flopfish. very interesting.

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    "Assuming there are 6 cards per tin in every tin (No decoys making it 5 cards), the lowest amount of tins produced is: 14,330
    Divide this by 6 and the amount of cases you have is 2,389. That's the lowest possible amount. If there are decoys it will be much higher."


    Wow, that's a lot of cases....

    This is why I love 1990-91 Bowman and Topps Tiffany. Only 400 cases total of each product made.

    Same with Captain C... even w/o an NHL license it was insane.

    wow! great info Flopfish. very interesting.

    No problem


    Put up a team checklist download!

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    wow really nice thanks!

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