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09-11-2012, 12:28 AM #1
By The Numbers: 2011/12 The Cup
*EDIT* Download my makeshift spreadsheet version HERE
DOWNLOAD CHECKLIST WITH TEAM CHECKLISTS HERE (PDF FORMAT, TEAMS START IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER ON PAGE 2)
Upon the checklist being released, I went hard at work crunching some numbers for The Cup... Some more shocking than others. I'll add more tomorrow with teams and such, but I must say... There are a ton of cards. We can safely put to rest that this year, baring more than 5 cards a tin, this is not as shortprinted as previous years, but instead has the most cards with the additions of the SPA Extended Series adding 4 more plates per rookie, the new rookie tags and rookie black autos /5, and update cards. Also, without a print run on the Rookie Evolutions (probably video cards), I went ahead and Guess-timated the print run at 25 per card because it seems the closest. Anyways, without further ado, here are the first numbers I crunched out:
*REVISED OFF BY A FEW CARDS*
Total Cards Assuming Rookie Evolutions /25: 85,976
Total 1/1s NOT including plates: 541
Total 1/1s Including Plates: 3,973
Total Shields: 176
Total Property Ofs: 53
Assuming there are 6 cards per tin in every tin (No decoys making it 5 cards), the lowest amount of tins produced is: 14,330
Divide this by 6 and the amount of cases you have is 2,389. That's the lowest possible amount. If there are decoys it will be much higher.
Odds of getting a 1/1 (No Plates):
This is assuming you get 2 base per tin and 1 rookie patch auto, leaving the other 3 hits undetermined: 1.44%, in other words 14 tins in 1000 will carry a true 1/1 (Shield, Property of, Base Tag /1, Base /1, Rookies /1, randoms /1, Cuts /1)
Odds of getting a 1/1 (With Plates): 10.6%.
That's right, including plates, less than every 10 tins will contain a 1/1.Last edited by flopfish; 09-11-2012 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Added checklist download
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09-11-2012, 11:27 AM #2
For everyone going into The Cup team breaks, this post is for you. This is probably the most indepth resource you will ever find, and I am very, very proud to have done it :) If you post this on another site, it'd mean a lot if you could give some credit to me for it, as I am on hour 7 of piecing it together!
What this is: It's a list of all of the times a team will have a player appear on a card for them (Assuming Canada cards go to their current team or to the team they played the most on.) It's not the amount of cards like they have 5 base, 3 RPAs, etc, it's the TOTAL PRINT RUN on all of the cards their team appears on. No odds are given (i.e. if they have a triple card with two players from their team on it, it's only one time.)
Anaheim Ducks 2820Boston Bruins 3850Buffalo Sabres 3911Calgary Flames 2611Carolina Hurricanes 1308Chicago Blackhawks 4787Colorado Avalanche 4138Columbus Blue Jackets 3435Dallas Stars 1820Detroit Red Wings 3578Edmonton OIlers 5891Florida Panthers 491Los Angeles Kings 2448Minnesota Wild 623Montreal Canadiens 4741Nashville Predators 2392New Jersey Devils 3425New York Islanders 2424New York Rangers 3383Ottawa Senators 2665Philadelphia Flyers 4887Phoenix Coyotes 1040Pittsburgh Penguins 6150St. Louis Blues 1082San Jose Sharks 1953Tampa Bay Lightning 1497Toronto Maple Leafs 2622Vancouver Canucks 3519Washington Capitals 2385Winnipeg Jets 1812
There are the cards per team, total print runLast edited by flopfish; 09-11-2012 at 04:45 PM.
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09-11-2012, 11:46 AM #3
Updated with more accurate info.
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09-11-2012, 12:13 PM #4
"Assuming there are 6 cards per tin in every tin (No decoys making it 5 cards), the lowest amount of tins produced is: 14,330
Divide this by 6 and the amount of cases you have is 2,389. That's the lowest possible amount. If there are decoys it will be much higher."
Wow, that's a lot of cases....
This is why I love 1990-91 Bowman and Topps Tiffany. Only 400 cases total of each product made.
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09-11-2012, 02:50 PM #5
wow! great info Flopfish. very interesting.
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09-11-2012, 05:09 PM #6
Same with Captain C... even w/o an NHL license it was insane.
No problem
Put up a team checklist download!
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09-11-2012, 07:06 PM #7
wow really nice thanks!
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