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    Yes. Shrew is right.

    POOR PEOPLE HAVE IT TOO GOOD!



    wait...

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    wickabee, you could say that

    but.....

    I would say people taking advantage of the system have it good, most low income people have it ok, I am friends with and know quite a few, and have been there myself for many years.

    the people who are poor and are trying to make it could have it better if others weren't stealing the funds that could be used to help the ones that really need it.

    did you wait long enough?

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    since obama

    low income get;
    free cell phone, free computers, free internet, and more money and foodstamps

    OK, I want you to show proof of this , and if I don't see hard evidence I will assume you are making it up.

    middle class gets;
    more taxes, less income, free nothing

    WAIT, WHAT??? HOW???

    Have you forgotten that Obama ALLOWED the Bush Tax Cuts to keep going???


    rich get;
    blamed for everything

    Yeah, I forget that the ones that got us into this horrible mess was the middle class and poor people, I forget that it's Poor people sending jobs overseas, I forget that poor people are the ones that control the majority of this country. I forget how poor people have influenced Washington DC so much that it has become so corrupted and insufferable.

    Yeah, Leave Rich people alone, they do no wrong!


    atleast even the crazy right wing voters are not voting for romney because they will get free stuff.

    i just hope if obama wins he changes up what he is doing, because it has not worked
    and if romney wins, i really hope he doesn't make things worse

    Or.....maybe the GOP can finally stop obstructing him, since he can't run for a 3rd term, and maybe they will realize that helping their own country is more important than playing politics 24/7!

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    wickabee, you could say that

    but.....

    I would say people taking advantage of the system have it good, most low income people have it ok, I am friends with and know quite a few, and have been there myself for many years.

    the people who are poor and are trying to make it could have it better if others weren't stealing the funds that could be used to help the ones that really need it.

    did you wait long enough?

    Well I don't disagree with that. I just wonder exactly how drastically cutting those programs helps weed those people out without putting those who actually need it at further disadvantage. Any ideas?

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    wickabee, that is the tricky part, and it seems even if you try a little everyone freaks out, look how the drug testing requirements are going. also the testing is only for the person receiving the benefits, it should e for everyone in the house hold who benefit from it as well.
    this along with medicaide, medicare fraud could save us so much money it's ridiculous.

    we need to cut spending and waste, then increase revenue but not by increasing taxes but by creating more tax payers. cutting military waste and replacing it with new payroll would down the UER. Cutting waste in government and bring back NASA, kill the fines on coal mining, and increase oil drilling to drop the gas prices, along with cleaning up SS, medicare, medicaide and entitlements, is the real way out of this in my mind. this is not to mention we need to rethink what we are going to do with our foreign aid and policies, it is getting a it out of control.
    but i do not see romney nor obama doing anything to start down any of these paths, they both talk a lot but no specifics from romney and no action from obama.

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    alex,

    you are so uninformed as a believer in science, this is one of the biggest issues I have with entitlements and why i complain about it. i could care less if you think i am making it up, proof is in the truth, not me.

    so you want proof?????
    In addition to the feature phone and 250 minutes, eligible participants usually receive voice mail, caller ID and call waiting.

    here you go, here is a link to the site and the other link is to my specific state
    http://www.freegovernmentcellphones....hone-providers
    http://www.freegovernmentcellphones....rance-wireless
    computers you say?
    http://www.infobarrel.com/Free_Compu...ncome_Families

    middles class? nation average income down $4000, and wait till 2013 for the taxes to hit.

    horrible mess? lets see, uneducated in investing and you pick what to invest in and it bottoms out, the rich did it? you get a mortgage based on a ARM counting on your income to go up, it doesn't and you can't afford it when the ARM goes up, the rich people again?

    dems owned both houses for 4 years and the presidency for 2 of those, what got done, oh, obama cared passed by a few pay offs that were written in?

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    wickabee, that is the tricky part, and it seems even if you try a little everyone freaks out, look how the drug testing requirements are going. also the testing is only for the person receiving the benefits, it should e for everyone in the house hold who benefit from it as well.
    this along with medicaide, medicare fraud could save us so much money it's ridiculous.

    we need to cut spending and waste, then increase revenue but not by increasing taxes but by creating more tax payers. cutting military waste and replacing it with new payroll would down the UER. Cutting waste in government and bring back NASA, kill the fines on coal mining, and increase oil drilling to drop the gas prices, along with cleaning up SS, medicare, medicaide and entitlements, is the real way out of this in my mind. this is not to mention we need to rethink what we are going to do with our foreign aid and policies, it is getting a it out of control.
    but i do not see romney nor obama doing anything to start down any of these paths, they both talk a lot but no specifics from romney and no action from obama.

    The problem is, what exactly do you cut? Do you give out less money? Do you employ less workers in the sector? Do you cut the program altogether?
    If anything, those programs need more funding to weed out the abusers. Cutting them will just put those who need it at further disadvantage while those who abuse will continue to do so, probably moreso.

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    that is why i said cleaning up and yes they would require more funding due to new job creation, and i am all for that. then these jobs are directed at curtailing abuse? it is all the better.

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    that is why i said cleaning up and yes they would require more funding due to new job creation, and i am all for that. then these jobs are directed at curtailing abuse? it is all the better.

    Don't the GOP just want massive cuts to social programs?

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    alex,

    you are so uninformed as a believer in science, this is one of the biggest issues I have with entitlements and why i complain about it. i could care less if you think i am making it up, proof is in the truth, not me.

    so you want proof?????

    here you go, here is a link to the site and the other link is to my specific state
    http://www.freegovernmentcellphones....hone-providers
    http://www.freegovernmentcellphones....rance-wireless
    computers you say?
    http://www.infobarrel.com/Free_Compu...ncome_Families

    middles class? nation average income down $4000, and wait till 2013 for the taxes to hit.

    horrible mess? lets see, uneducated in investing and you pick what to invest in and it bottoms out, the rich did it? you get a mortgage based on a ARM counting on your income to go up, it doesn't and you can't afford it when the ARM goes up, the rich people again?

    dems owned both houses for 4 years and the presidency for 2 of those, what got done, oh, obama cared passed by a few pay offs that were written in?

    I really wish I had time to go into detail on this, but I would recommend you give the book All The Devils Are Here by Bethany McLean and Joe Nocera a read.

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