Benghazi

[Wickabee]

That's a good question. First I've heard of it.

I don't think anything would have stopped it anyway, but it does seem more important than the label used next day, which affects nothing and serves only to politicise and distract. I myself only heard the defense thing once, I just can't stand people claiming the other side is politicising at the same time they're trying to use the issue to gain votes...or at least lose some for the other side. I just think it's low-brow, hypocritical politics.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

So you're saying that 4 people died because Obama didn't specifically call the in ident a terrorist act the next day?

You're politicisng, your party is too. I find it ironic that you use 4 deaths for votes and then try to look sympathetic towards the families. You don't look sympathetic, just pathetic .

Nobody said 4 people died because he didn't call it a terrorists attack , We say 4 people died because he refused to send help , MAYBE you should pay attention before you open your hole , But i would expect nothing else from you though.And yes we know the people YOU support are Pathetic. And a little note on spelling, check yours before you call someone else out on it .

[Wickabee]

Nobody said 4 people died because he didn't call it a terrorists attack , We say 4 people died because he refused to send help , MAYBE you should pay attention before you open your hole , But i would expect nothing else from you though.And yes we know the people YOU support are Pathetic. And a little note on spelling, check yours before you call someone else out on it .

So they didn't die due to a lack of funding voted by Ryan? Maybe they wouldn't have needed any help if the Republican party had thought they were worth it.

Not that I'd expect you to ever do anything but bash Obama. You're a broken record with a song that hold one side accountable and never questions you masters.

[AUTaxMan]

I don't think anything would have stopped it anyway, but it does seem more important than the label used next day, which affects nothing and serves only to politicise and distract. I myself only heard the defense thing once, I just can't stand people claiming the other side is politicising at the same time they're trying to use the issue to gain votes...or at least lose some for the other side. I just think it's low-brow, hypocritical politics.

The label used the next day is important, though, because people are seeking the truth, and when it is obvious that you aren't getting the truth from the government, people are going to demand it even more loudly. When we have American loss of life on any President's watch, he has to account for it. People want answers. Critics of the president will use failures like this to criticize him, just as proponents will laud him when he accomplishes something positive in foreign affairs. It's just human nature. Complaining that something like this shouldn't be politicized is to demand that people stop asking questions and not to criticize the government's reaction to it, which is really an unfair and dangerous position to take, especially in times like these where nobody really trusts the government.

If you're (not you, personally) going to tell someone they shouldn't politicize Benghazi, no need to stop there. Tell them they shouldn't politicize the economy, jobs, the debt, foreign affairs, war, crime, education, healthcare, religion, or any other issue you can think of. The real distraction, in my opinion, is arguing over whether this issue should be politicized (read: criticized) or not.

[Wickabee]

All good points except for one thing.

I didn't say don't politicise it. Governor Romney did.

[mrveggieman]

The label used the next day is important, though, because people are seeking the truth, and when it is obvious that you aren't getting the truth from the government, people are going to demand it even more loudly. When we have American loss of life on any President's watch, he has to account for it. People want answers. Critics of the president will use failures like this to criticize him, just as proponents will laud him when he accomplishes something positive in foreign affairs. It's just human nature. Complaining that something like this shouldn't be politicized is to demand that people stop asking questions and not to criticize the government's reaction to it, which is really an unfair and dangerous position to take, especially in times like these where nobody really trusts the government.

If you're (not you, personally) going to tell someone they shouldn't politicize Benghazi, no need to stop there. Tell them they shouldn't politicize the economy, jobs, the debt, foreign affairs, war, crime, education, healthcare, religion, or any other issue you can think of. The real distraction, in my opinion, is arguing over whether this issue should be politicized (read: criticized) or not.

When did we ever trust the gov't?

[pghin08]

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ack/?hpt=hp_t3

[AUTaxMan]

More on Benghazi:

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

More on Benghazi:

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

Americans do not stand down !