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11-01-2012, 01:22 PM #1
Romney Campaign Training Poll Watchers To Mislead Voters In Wisconsin
Mitt Romney’s campaign has been training poll watchers in Wisconsin with highly misleading — and sometimes downright false — information about voters’ rights.
Documents from a recent Romney poll watcher training obtained by ThinkProgress contain several misleading or untrue claims about the rights of Wisconsin voters. A source passed along the following packet of documents, which was distributed to volunteers at a Romney campaign training in Racine on October 25th. In total, eight such trainings were held across the state in the past two weeks and 17 since late September.
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11-01-2012, 04:46 PM #2
oops wrong one
but surprising no one has replied....Last edited by MadMan1978; 11-01-2012 at 04:57 PM.
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11-01-2012, 05:26 PM #3
That article is just as incorrect/misleading as the poll watcher documents that they are attacking. Although since the article comes from ThinkProgress I am not surprised since they bow only to HuffPost in misleading and deceptive reporting practices.
The article: Says that felons may vote after they have completed their sentence, parole/proabation and have paid all fines. This is a lie. A felon who has completed all sentence/parole/proabtion and paid all fines may not vote.
Wisconsin law: Says first-time felons may vote, if they have completed all parole/probation and have paid all fines...if they wait until 5 years after they have completed all of the sentence/parole/probabtion and if they apply to the governor requesting reinstatement of their voting rights.
So the poll watcher info was more correct than the ThinkProgress article. As a general rule, felons may not vote. If they have multiple felonies, they may not vote, EVER. If they are on parole/proabtion, they may not vote. If it hasn't been 5 years since they completed their sentence, they may not vote. If they do not have special permission from the governor, they may not vote.
The article: Says that more than the 10 documents listed are acceptable proof of residence. Then they give a link to a .pdf file as proof. I guess an idiot provided that link for the article, because it only list 9 acceptable forms of proof.
The article: Says that handicapped voters do not have to provide proof of residence as long as they are a registered voter. Again, they provide proof against their claim with the link to a .pdf file. The .pdf clearly states that handicapped absentee voters must either provide a photocopy of their ID or meet exemption requirements. The only flaw in the poll watcher info is that a CEI must certify it.
The article: Says that poll watchers can provide assistance, if asked. The poll watcher info says that they "should not", it does not say that they can not. What is more, again ThinkProgress provided a link to a .pdf that appears to discredit their claim. #17 of what a poll watcher can and can not do says "Observers shall not engage in any conversation with electors concerning a candidate, party, or question appearing on the ballot." So poll watchers may provide assistance as long as it has nothing to do with voting, candidates, poll questions or the election in general.
Last edited by duane1969; 11-01-2012 at 05:29 PM.
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11-01-2012, 06:21 PM #4
So it is ok for the Romney camp to mislead the people a the polling places?
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11-01-2012, 06:29 PM #5
Dude, read what I wrote. Any claim of misleading is minimal at most and majorly over-blown. That is why there is no media coverage on this. It is nothing.
Felons are not allowed to vote - This is true unless special citcumstances are met. That isn't misleading. The article claiming that felons are allowed to vote if they have completed their sentence and paid their fines is more misleading as it simply isn't true.
More than 10 ways to prove residency - Apparently not. Even ThinkProgress can only provide proof of 9 ways.
Handicapped voters providing proof of residence - They do have to provide proof, they just don't have to get it certified by a CEI.
Poll watchers providing assistance - What assistance are they allowed to provide? Tie people's shoes? Sharpen their pencil? Wipe their butt? Wisconsin law says they can not discuss anything related to voting. I repeat, What assistance are they allowed to give?
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11-01-2012, 06:41 PM #6
And again you side sided the REAL issue...
Why is Romney Camp even thinking of saying this to anyone?
and no less in a swing state?
Really DUDE?
again more Republican Double Standards!
I will just use RDS now....
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11-01-2012, 07:14 PM #7
What you and ThinkProgress are taking issue with is standard stuff. Anyone who wishes to be a poll watcher for a party will get a training session. There is no conspiracy here. Relax. Have a beer, or Coke or whatever you drink.
Give me a shot at reading poll watcher training info provided by the Obama camp and i bet I can find similar problems. I repeat, this is nothing.
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11-01-2012, 08:32 PM #8
Well said (regarding all your posts), the article posted is, well.....bad.
(Also, the line in your signature is hilarious. Love that kind of sarcastic humor)Hidden Content
Dan LeFevour PC 192/283
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11-02-2012, 10:58 PM #9
The article: Says that felons may vote after they have completed their sentence, parole/proabation and have paid all fines.
Duane said:
This is a lie. A felon who has completed all sentence/parole/proabtion and paid all fines may not vote.
Wisconsin law: Says first-time felons may vote, if they have completed all parole/probation and have paid all fines...if they wait until 5 years after they have completed all of the sentence/parole/probabtion and if they apply to the governor requesting reinstatement of their voting rights.
So the poll watcher info was more correct than the ThinkProgress article. As a general rule, felons may not vote. If they have multiple felonies, they may not vote, EVER. If they are on parole/proabtion, they may not vote. If it hasn't been 5 years since they completed their sentence, they may not vote. If they do not have special permission from the governor, they may not vote.
The truth
In Wisconsin, anyone convicted of a felony who has not yet completed
the terms of their sentence, including probation, parole, and post-correctional
supervision, is ineligible to vote. Felons become eligible to
vote again only when they complete their post-correctional supervision
Nothing of a 5 year rule....
Reference : http://epic.org/privacy/voting/Wisco..._pdf_16872.pdf
The article: Says that more than the 10 documents listed are acceptable proof of residence. Then they give a link to a .pdf file as proof. I guess an idiot provided that link for the article, because it only list 9 acceptable forms of proof.
-It appears you failed to read the document-the article is correct there are far more then 10....I counted 16 plus possible forms as Proof of Residence
The article: Says that handicapped voters do not have to provide proof of residence as long as they are a registered voter. Again, they provide proof against their claim with the link to a .pdf file. The .pdf clearly states that handicapped absentee voters must either provide a photocopy of their ID or meet exemption requirements. The only flaw in the poll watcher info is that a CEI must certify it.
The article: Says that poll watchers can provide assistance, if asked. The poll watcher info says that they "should not", it does not say that they can not. What is more, again ThinkProgress provided a link to a .pdf that appears to discredit their claim. #17 of what a poll watcher can and can not do says "Observers shall not engage in any conversation with electors concerning a candidate, party, or question appearing on the ballot." So poll watchers may provide assistance as long as it has nothing to do with voting, candidates, poll questions or the election in general.[/QUOTE]
Well I sak not that the pdf you so call beginning incorrect are from the Information provided by the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board...So they are wrong ?? really?
Maybe you should read them first before you reply!
So now that said the article is correct and think progress did their job!
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