We Know How to Stop School Shootings

[habsheaven]

A ban would make it harder (note I said harder, not impossible) for insane people to get these type of weapons. If that difficulty deters just one insane person from committing an act like the latest one, it is worth it.

[Wickabee]

I think a ban would work on honest people, not criminals or insane people

And that's part of the problem. How many shooters are first time offenders with no "known" history of mental disorder?
So it's part of an actual overall solution. Are you more interested in a real attempt at a solution or are you content with political bickering.
Is it a solution in itself? Not even close. You still have the state of mental health care and the ramifications of a free market pharmaceutical system. You have security issues at schools. There'sa lot of ground to cover.
As soon as you completely disregard one part of it, you droom the whole thing to failure. This is a big picture issue getting bogged down in smaller bits. You're missing the Forrest for the trees, so to speak.

[centrehice]

not a member of the NRA and they are dumb for saying this, but I do believe that a ban on assault weapons won't prevent such events. but to be honest, I could care less if you ban them.

and how is the mental health system going to stop this and how are they at fault. they can only force something if the individual is under their care, in their presence and still have other guidelines to follow.

we just can't start pointing to people we think are mentally ill and force some form of care on them.

and armed guards concern me for the fact of how the police is already, undertrained and some are corrupt, this is not what i want to have around children.

Why not? It was done in Canada and America from 1900 to 1980 on a daily basis. Now those very sick people through no fault of their own are a part of society, and somebody made the conscious decision that these mentally disturbed individuals needed to fit in and be a part of regular society.

Take a look a the mental institutions in both Canada and America when both populations were half of what they are now. You will see institutions that housed from between 300 and 5,000 individuals in the 50's. 60's and 70's that have now been closed since the mid 80's.

All those that were deemed not fit to live among us, are living among us. Now the US population is 310,000,000, so with nobody in any institutions, there are at least 15 million very sick and or mentally disturbed individuals living amongst us.

This also does not take into account the 2,000 times increase of Autism at birth, severe or mild forms of it. 4- 6 Children in 100 births now have some form of autism, the figure being much higher for males than females.

Huge problems. So proper Mental Health is now needed more that at any other time in history.

[JustAlex]

Ann Coulter.....GET A BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND!

You are a HACK!

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This also does not take into account the 2,000 times increase of Autism at birth, severe or mild forms of it. 4- 6 Children in 100 births now have some form of autism, the figure being much higher for males than females.

Hold up a sec. Are you equating autism/Asperger's/ASD's with this sort of violence? Because I have someone VERY close to me with suspected (and therefore untreated) Asperger's who wouldn't ever consider doing anything even remotely close to this.

[Wickabee]

Hold up a sec. Are you equating autism/Asperger's/ASD's with this sort of violence? Because I have someone VERY close to me with suspected (and therefore untreated) Asperger's who wouldn't ever consider doing anything even remotely close to this.

Autistic people can become quite violent as a result of the condition. Note: can. It doesn't mean they will. Asperger's as far as I know, doesn't have nearly the incidents of violence as Autism, but when a mind isn't right, who knows what can happen.

[centrehice]

Hold up a sec. Are you equating autism/Asperger's/ASD's with this sort of violence? Because I have someone VERY close to me with suspected (and therefore untreated) Asperger's who wouldn't ever consider doing anything even remotely close to this.

No, I am not, I am stressing the need for proper Mental Health on a community level. Public Health used to be attached to Mental Health in the USA, but since there are Medical Insurance companies, now, little mental health is provided by the public health system.

The point I was stressing is that we have much larger populations now with mental health issues and they are not getting any type of care.

I have an autistic Brother-In-Law who is 14, and the profile of this kid that did all the killing matches my Brother-In-Law's actions and behavioral patterns. My Brother-In-Law does not appear to be violent in nature, but appears to at times be completely locked in his own World. He walks looking down, bit of a loner etc, must have constant medication. He is fortunate his Dad is a successful lawyer and he can get some care.

My best friend's nephew has Asperger's Syndrom and although being a very bright kid, he is one of those that while expressing his viewpoint will say exactly what is on his mind. He has no discretion valve, but he does not have one bad bone in his body.

[Wickabee]

No, I am not, I am stressing the need for proper Mental Health on a community level. Public Health used to be attached to Mental Health in the USA, but since there are Medical Insurance companies, now, little mental health is provided by the public health system.

The point I was stressing is that we have much larger populations now with mental health issues and they are not getting any type of care.

I have an autistic Brother-In-Law who is 14, and the profile of this kid that did all the killing matches my Brother-In-Law's actions and behavioral patterns. My Brother-In-Law does not appear to be violent in nature, but appears to at times be completely locked in his own World. He walks looking down, bit of a loner etc, must have constant medication. He is fortunate his Dad is a successful lawyer and he can get some care.

My best friend's nephew has Asperger's Syndrom and although being a very bright kid, he is one of those that while expressing his viewpoint will say exactly what is on his mind. He has no discretion valve, but he does not have one bad bone in his body.

When an autistic person is "in their own world" as you described, trying to communicate can be not unlike waking a sleepwalker. They have a mission and nothing will stop it.

From an aesthetic viewpoint, anyway.

[centrehice]

Hence the symbol for Autism being a piece of jigsaw Puzzle.