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[shrewsbury]

100% more than Canada and dang close to England
but ok, split hairs, next time I will pick on my second favorite country, Canada

[Wickabee]

100% more than Canada and dang close to England
but ok, split hairs, next time I will pick on my second favorite country, Canada

Fair enough.

So, you've proven population has little to do with gun violence...were you working towards a point? Or did you just talk yourself out of one?

[shrewsbury]

no, I was showing that more gun ownership doesn't mean more gun deaths or violence.

and that Canada is my second favorite country and thus the second best, so no need to try and be like her, she is fine how she is and the US just needs to have harsher sentencing and prisons, and instead of giving out obamaphones they should give out gun safes

same dang 3 things I have been saying all along.

[Wickabee]

Harsher sentencing with nothing else done will simply lead to more people in jail, nothing else.
Giving out gun safes is much stupider than phones. At least phones can be used to get a job. If you can't afford a gun safe, you can't afford a gun (just like I was told I shouldn't own a house without my own generator).
Canada is the best country on earth. We have good health care and very little gun violence. You have lots of gun violence with poor health care.

[maccards44]

no, I was showing that more gun ownership doesn't mean more gun deaths or violence.

Uh, except that it does. Saying the U.S. has on average less gun deaths than places like Brazil, Columbia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Guyana, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, South Africa, Venezuela & Zimbabwe... is NOT a good thing. What more of a straight line from gun ownership ownership to gun violence do you need to see to make the connection? Will you not see the the problem until we actually GET worse than those 3rd world countries? What if things get a little more violent in 2013 and we don't eek it out over Zimbwe next year? Or will the solution continue to be more guns?