Oh, My God

[deansayso]

HA!

Let me get this straight....your proof for America being based on Judeo-Christian principles (the whole concept of Judeo-christian is an oxymoron to begin with, seeing as these two religions are actually quite different and have VERY different beliefs, laws, and systems) is based on Morality?

Morality?

What....the Bible's morality?

The OT morality?

the NT morality?

You gotta be kidding me.

Do you think these people invented the Golden rule or something?

and how hilarious that the only example that Billo gave was the 10 commandments which I was very easily able to eviscerate, but you guys can't give me a SINGLE example of this "moral code" that you claim was founded by "Judeo-Christain principle" and then implemented into our government?

How exactly?

When?

By Who?

Where is this written?

I think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe start a blog so millions can read instead of a few sports card traders?

[Wickabee]

HA!

Let me get this straight....your proof for America being based on Judeo-Christian principles (the whole concept of Judeo-christian is an oxymoron to begin with,

So, you admit you have no idea what the phrase 'Judeo-Christian' even means. That's good.

But, if you don't have a clue what it means (by the way, I was taught in grade 8), why do you continue after this?

Seriouslyt dude, go look it up and learn something for a change.

[Star_Cards]

interesting article, but his use of the term anti religion is sort of like people saying pro choice people are pro abortion. People who don't want our government ruling by religious ideals are not anti religion... at least I'm not. I'm all for everyone being able to believe whatever they want. Most just want a specific religion's rules being legislated because that religions figure head is said to have said one thing or another. That's far from being anti religion. I've yet to hear any legitimate person talking about outlawing religion in any manner.

[JustAlex]

So, you admit you have no idea what the phrase 'Judeo-Christian' even means. That's good.

But, if you don't have a clue what it means (by the way, I was taught in grade 8), why do you continue after this?

Seriouslyt dude, go look it up and learn something for a change.

Are you going to give me examples of this "moral code"?

Are you going to be able to directly connect it with this so called "Judeo-Christian" principles.....BTW, I said what I said about 'J-C' because although Christians like that phrasing, many Jews don't and I don't blame them.

Case in point:

http://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/yor...es/2012/12/24/


The whole concept is contradictory, grounded on a deeply flawed book and even more chaotic religion.

A religion which is not even united in the same belief, a religion which despite claiming to be all about love, likes to discriminate others simply for not holding the same beliefs, a religion which is a clear and present danger to our SECULAR society!


The same christians who say "Oh, we don't live in the OT law anymore".....then use the freaking 10 commandments (OT LAWS!!!) to make a case for America being a christian country because there's a stupid statue in the SCOTUS building.....but what's worse is not the fact that MOST christians can't even name all 10 commandments, it's the fact that they don't see that 8 of the 10 don't apply to ANY laws whatsoever, and the other 2 laws have been around long before Moses!

UGH! It's beyond frustrating to even comprehend this logic.

[Wickabee]

Alex, read a book.

Seriously, the ignorance you base your argument on is astounding. This is basic history knowledge. I do believe you were left behind at some point. Go find your old teachers and tell them you don't know stuff. Otherwise I'm gonna need to get paid for tutoring.

[JustAlex]

^Yeah, Ok, I'm done trying to make you back up your own assertions.

The three most powerful words in our Constitution are "We the People..."

This country was built by the people, not by god and his morality, not by his religion, not by his beliefs.....but our society.

And within that document there is NO proof that this 'J-C' principles are present.....BTW, I could easily say 'J-C-I' and it would basically be the same thing.

But of course the fundies wouldn't like it then.

[Wickabee]

^Yeah, Ok, I'm done trying to make you back up your own assertions.

The three most powerful words in our Constitution are "We the People..."

This country was built by the people, not by god and his morality, not by his religion, not by his beliefs.....but our society.

And within that document there is NO proof that this 'J-C' principles are present.....BTW, I could easily say 'J-C-I' and it would basically be the same thing.

But of course the fundies wouldn't like it then.

Read
A
Book

Your ignorance is starting to borderline on dangerous. Your high school teachers were negilgent with you. You don't eve know what Judeo-Christian principles even refers to and you're arguing against history. I don't have to back anything up. YOU need to actually educate yourself before you go running your mouth. And no, your little atheist site are not educating yourself. You're indoctrinating yourself and you call it learning.

In short, people like you are very dangerous. You spread lies without regard for your own non-understanding. I have no respect for your kind. You say you base everything on fact, but you don't even care to learn what the facts are. If you did you wouldn't continue to spew misinformation. The worst part is you admit you knowingly do it. A generic Republican is more trutworthy than you.

[JustAlex]

In short, people like you are very dangerous. You spread lies without regard for your own non-understanding. I have no respect for your kind. You say you base everything on fact, but you don't even care to learn what the facts are. If you did you wouldn't continue to spew misinformation. The worst part is you admit you knowingly do it. A generic Republican is more trutworthy than you.

You're projecting like crazy.

I'm spreading lies, I'm dangerous for thinking that our government is purely secular when all evidence points to that?

I don't base everything on fact....that's impossible.

I TRY to base everything on good logic, evidence and good argumentation.

You still can't prove your assertion.

I don't need to read any book, I know the history of this country quite well, and I also understand the concepts of 'J-C' values/principles and they are incorrectly given attributes which they NEVER started such as "the golden rule".

The golden rule is a great moral code, unfortunately for the believers of 'J-C' values, it was already in place long before the bible was even written.

Long before Jesus walked the earth.

[Wickabee]

You're projecting like crazy.

I'm spreading lies, I'm dangerous for thinking that our government is purely secular when all evidence points to that?

No, you're spreading lies for thinking, and saying, that being based on Judeo-Christian principles equates being a religious nation. It does not. Not even close. If you knew what Judeo-Christian principles refers to, you wouldn't even be here right now. Don't ask me to teach you what it is, learn it yourself. If you can't, go find your old history teacher, slap him and make him teach you now what he should have taught you about 8 years ago.

I don't base everything on fact....

Or anything. You base most of what you say on misinformation regarding religion. You don't care to do real research and learn for yourself. You parrot what atheist organizations tell you to and then sell yourself as a free thinker. Another lie.

that's impossible.

I TRY to base everything on good logic, evidence and good argumentation.

I've never even seen you do that. Al I see in your posts lately is venom. No thought, no integrity, no credibility, just hatred and venom.

You still can't prove your assertion.

I don't have to. You should know this stuff.

I don't need to read any book, I know the history of this country quite well, and I also understand the concepts of 'J-C' values/principles and they are incorrectly given attributes which they NEVER started such as "the golden rule".

That's not it at all. Again, go read a book and see what it really refers to. You will then know that ALL modern day western society, the US and Canada included, are based on Judeo-Christian principles. Again you show your ignorance, again you don't care, again you dangerously spread misinformation.
The golden rule is a great moral code, unfortunately for the believers of 'J-C' values, it was already in place long before the bible was even written.

Long before Jesus walked the earth.

Again, religion has nothing to do with it. Because you see the word "Christian" in a phrase, you assume it's evil.
You don't even know what it is.

You have maybe half the information, and you go out and preach the word according to Maher without thinking. You've obviously never taken the time to learn what the phrase refers to or opened any sort of book relating to US history, European history or, I'm guessing on this one, any history. You spread misinformation to feel smarter. You spread hatred and venom with complete disregard for the lies you drop along the way. You aren't fighting fire with fire. You've become what you claim to hate.

[JustAlex]

^Yeah, whatever, I've said what I needed to, this is going nowhere.

You're being stubborn and admittedly so am I, if you want to continue saying that I'm lying, and spewing out hate speech go right ahead.

Until you actually bring evidence to your assertion then I guess I'm done with this thread.

BTW, I'm NOT saying that just because "christian" is in the phrase I don't like it....I just don't believe it has anything to do with that.

Our morals don't come from religion (IMO) they are an evolutionary trait.

For example, we don't kill people because we need each other to survive....that's what I mean.

This is NOT a 'J-C' value/principle/whatever....it's something we are born with and societies have adapted it.