Republicans want to make getting a divorce difficult

[mrveggieman]

For every one marriage that ends because of an issue like you discuss there are 20 others that end because they just don't want to try to make it work, they have better things to do, they didn't really want to be married to begin with, they thought it would be cool to get married and it wasn't, they were too young, etc. We don't have a 50% divorce rate in this country because 50% of the marriages involved horrible situations with horrible people. Our divorce rate is so high because there is no sanctity in marriage anymore and divorces have become the norm and not the exception.

Case in point. My cousin is now getting ready to get married for the 3rd time. Her first husband didn't treat her right (and by not treat her right I mean he only provided her with a $500k house, an $80k SUV, diamond rings, weekly hair and nail salon visits and vacations to Las Vegas and Hawaii. He never abused her or hurt her at any time). Her second husband apparently just wasn't good enough, because I have yet to hear a legit reason of why she divorced him. In both cases, she is at fault. Nobody cheated. Nobody was abused. She just doesn't want to settle. And her 2 kids had to live through both of these divorces.

That brings up a thought. Why should gay people be penalized because straight people put no sanctity in their marriages?

[habsheaven]

For every one marriage that ends because of an issue like you discuss there are 20 others that end because they just don't want to try to make it work, they have better things to do, they didn't really want to be married to begin with, they thought it would be cool to get married and it wasn't, they were too young, etc. We don't have a 50% divorce rate in this country because 50% of the marriages involved horrible situations with horrible people. Our divorce rate is so high because there is no sanctity in marriage anymore and divorces have become the norm and not the exception.

Case in point. My cousin is now getting ready to get married for the 3rd time. Her first husband didn't treat her right (and by not treat her right I mean he only provided her with a $500k house, an $80k SUV, diamond rings, weekly hair and nail salon visits and vacations to Las Vegas and Hawaii. He never abused her or hurt her at any time). Her second husband apparently just wasn't good enough, because I have yet to hear a legit reason of why she divorced him. In both cases, she is at fault. Nobody cheated. Nobody was abused. She just doesn't want to settle. And her 2 kids had to live through both of these divorces.

And to solve these types of situations you think it is a good idea to create more laws interfering in people's lives. To heck with the couple constantly arguing for 10 years in front of their children, you want your spoiled cousin to have to stick it out. That all makes perfect Republican sense.

[duane1969]

Um....no.

Getting a divorce should be just as easy as getting married.

Making it hard doesn't help anyone....if either of the persons involved in a marriage wants to get divorced (For whatever reason) it is their right to do so.

I didn't say it wasn't their right. Making it easy minimalizes the value of marriage.

You would think that....but in a country where 55% of married couples divorce.... apparently it's not....although I'm not surprised one bit.

Thanks for proving my point. If they didn't end so easily and quickly then maybe people would be less likely to jump into a questionable marriage to begin with.

That would require people to know ahead of time things that are impossible to know....divorces happen for a variety of reasons...the main one is simply that one or both persons involved in the marriage simply don't love each other anymore.

Actually it would require people to have a little fortitude and not cut and run every time things get a little tough. You are correct, marriages end for a variety of reasons. According to a poll by MSN Living, 44% of divorced people said they felt that lack of equity led to their divorce, 46% said they felt that they married too young, 41% said they were not prepared for what they were getting into.

In that same poll, 62% said they wished they had worked harder to save their marriage.

When they married, they most likely didn't foresee this happening....now imagine a law making it really hard for this failing marriage to cease to exist....it just creates the problem bigger.

Which points back to my original point that if marriage is not so easy to get out of then maybe they will look at it deeper and harder before getting into it.

When someone makes a mistake, the preferred option is to quickly fix it with as much ease as possible.....of course the intent is to minimize the mistake.

Making the mistake bigger, longer, and more complicated is rarely the answer.

Making the mistake easy to walk away from and forget increases the likelihood that it will be made again. The 2011 Census reports that 12% of marriages are the 2nd time for people and 3% are the 3rd or more marriage. If it is less easy to get out then you are less likely to be stupid enough to jump right into another questionable one.

[duane1969]

That brings up a thought. Why should gay people be penalized because straight people put no sanctity in their marriages?

I had a similar thought. Why do liberals fight so hard for the right for gays to marry yet argue to strongly in favor of divorce being easy? That is oxymoronic, in my opinion.

Judging from what I am seeing here, it is the liberal straight people who value marriage so little and think divorce should be easier than ordering a Happy Meal. So in essence, liberals are trashing the sanctity of straight marriage and then arguing for the value of gay marriage. See my question above...

[Wickabee]

The fact of the matter is, divorce is acceptable enough for people to enter marriages thinking "If it doesn't work, we can just get divorced".

I don't know how to properly or fairly legislate against this problem, but it is a problem. A major one. Making the argument that a kid is better off in a broken home than one with fighting is like saying "Yeah, a punch in the face sucks, but it sure beats a kick in the nuts."
It's not saying a whole lot.

[Wickabee]

Judging from what I am seeing here, it is the liberal straight people who value marriage so little and think divorce should be easier than ordering a Happy Meal. So in essence, liberals are trashing the sanctity of straight marriage and then arguing for the value of gay marriage. See my question above...

Watch those generalizations...

[duane1969]

Watch those generalizations...

I can never tell if you are a liberal from day to day LOL

[Star_Cards]

Why is it a good thing to make divorce harder? Sure idea around marriage is to stay together forever, but it's an agreement and the government should have zero say in if two people want to dissolve that contract. The fact that people would want the government to be able to keep people from getting divorced is ridiculous. Besides, it's not like making marriage harder to get out of is going to make these marriages better. I also doubt it would keep people from getting married to start with because most people who get married never envision their relationship not working.

[JustAlex]

I didn't say it wasn't their right. Making it easy minimalizes the value of marriage.

Who says marriage has any value?

Marriage is an imaginary thing to begin with.

The difference between an unmarried person and a married one is simply a piece of paper.....it does not make one more valuable than the other....it doesn't bring any value either....although it does bring various rights and benefits and thus people get into it.

But intrinsically when dealing with what a marriage is supposed to do (form a union) it's not any different than a couple who has decided to live together without the piece of paper.

Kinda like driving a car.

The license doesn't bring any value, but it does bring rights and benefits.....saying that I have a license vs. someone that doesn't have a license doesn't make me a better driver.

Which points back to my original point that if marriage is not so easy to get out of then maybe they will look at it deeper and harder before getting into it.

And maybe it will become even more destructive hurting the most innocent of lives....children.

In this case the best thing to do is to let people do what they want to do....infringing on their lives to force them to think about their decisions is not the way to go.

[Wickabee]

I can never tell if you are a liberal from day to day LOL

I am...I'm just not too stupid to see that not every "liberal ideal" is a good one.