Dad gives son riffle for 11th birthday

[habsheaven]

I just watched the video. I think everyone in the story acted responsibly. I would only question what the motive of the parent was in posting the picture on a social network? You would think he was just updating friends and family until you realize that his lawyer is a 2nd amendment specialist. Seems to me the father was looking for attention and found it.

[MadMan1978]

HAHA, do you know what a 22 rifle is? It's pretty much one step up from a pellet gun, no kick, no power. The ar-15 style just makes it safer for young men to use.



You've never lived in the country or the mountains before have you?


btw here is a video of a man shooting this same gun, start watching at 4:30

I grew up in Falls Village CT pop of 1800 maybe
I know more about country then you will ever know. And yes the family and other family members all owned HUNTING rifles.

WHERE DOES IT END? Whats next?

[habsheaven]

Hey, I'm not the one bullying a non-present 11 year old on the internet.

Also, I'm not the one who needs to calm down. Your buddy madman, the ever present reminder why rightists hate the left and think they're annoying and have no point, is the one who needs to stop calling people bad parents. Maybe you guys wouldn't give that gift. I wouldn't buy my daughter a Barbie since I agree it sets unrealistic standards for girls. My wife disagrees and I'm going to be the one to give in because I know I can use that model to teach her that body image will always be an issue, especially for women, and that these sorts of things are just dolls, not something to strive for.

You guys would divorce her and shelter your kids so that when they did come across it, they'd have zero knowledge and zero context. THAT is bad parenting.

Wickabee - trust me, just let your daughter play with the darn Barbie. No need to make a lesson out of it. Keep the serious discussions about body image for the constant bombardment of media that she is going to encounter. Now back to the regular topic. lol

[Wickabee]

Wickabee - trust me, just let your daughter play with the darn Barbie. No need to make a lesson out of it. Keep the serious discussions about body image for the constant bombardment of media that she is going to encounter. Now back to the regular topic. lol

It's not like I'm gonna be on her about it 24/7. Not everything is all or nothing.

If you want to leave stuff like body image, which is at the heart of many mental issues for women, to the media and have your kids learn what they teach, that's your business and I won't say two words about it. Personally, I see my kids as my responsibility and will teach them as I see fit.

As for posting the picture on a social site, why does anyone post any picture anywhere. I doubt he was looking for attention but was simply posting a picture of his kid, smiling on his birthday and showing off his new gift. If it was a RC car, there'd be no question, but because it's a gun and others made a stink, he must have been using his son's birthday to make a political statement.

Man, the accusations are flying in this one, even from the guy who admits they acted responsibly. Who's looking for political attention? Seems to me like everyone but him. Remind me never to post pictures from my daughter's birthday. Jeez.

[Wickabee]

I grew up in Falls Village CT pop of 1800 maybe
I know more about country then you will ever know. And yes the family and other family members all owned HUNTING rifles.

WHERE DOES IT END? Whats next?

Either that's complete bull or you're insane. If you did grow up country, you'd realize that hunters and hunting rifles aren't even part of the problem. If you didn't you'd scream "WHERE DOES IT END?" like the issue of gun violence has anything to do with hunting. What's next, "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"?
So dramatic with no point. Not liking this theme.

[habsheaven]

It's not like I'm gonna be on her about it 24/7. Not everything is all or nothing.

If you want to leave stuff like body image, which is at the heart of many mental issues for women, to the media and have your kids learn what they teach, that's your business and I won't say two words about it. Personally, I see my kids as my responsibility and will teach them as I see fit.

As for posting the picture on a social site, why does anyone post any picture anywhere. I doubt he was looking for attention but was simply posting a picture of his kid, smiling on his birthday and showing off his new gift. If it was a RC car, there'd be no question, but because it's a gun and others made a stink, he must have been using his son's birthday to make a political statement.

Man, the accusations are flying in this one, even from the guy who admits they acted responsibly. Who's looking for political attention? Seems to me like everyone but him. Remind me never to post pictures from my daughter's birthday. Jeez.

First bold: Wick, check it again. That's not what I said. Second bold: HIS lawyer is an EXPERT on the 2nd amendment, what are the odds? It wasn't an accusation, more speculation than anything.

[Wickabee]

First bold: Wick, check it again. That's not what I said. Second bold: HIS lawyer is an EXPERT on the 2nd amendment, what are the odds? It wasn't an accusation, more speculation than anything.

The odds? In the US? I would guess finding a second amendment lawyer is about as tough as finding a divorce or accident lawyer.

[Wickabee]

I read. You said to leave any teaching about body image to the media and that I shouldn't bother. If there's something you forgot to add, please let me in on it. If not, I fail to see what mistake you made. Or were you saying wait until she sees a Barbie commercial or some magazine ad? If so, you didn't really say that, but whatever.

[habsheaven]

I read. You said to leave any teaching about body image to the media and that I shouldn't bother. If there's something you forgot to add, please let me in on it. If not, I fail to see what mistake you made. Or were you saying wait until she sees a Barbie commercial or some magazine ad? If so, you didn't really say that, but whatever.

Yes, I really did say that. You just can't read anything I say in a positive manner. SMH.

[Wickabee]

Yes, I really did say that. You just can't read anything I say in a positive manner. SMH.

I read it perfectly fine. Unfortunately, tone of voice doesn't carry through type. You should know by now that I can't hear or see you, so I can only go by your words. Your words said leave it for the media.
The difference here is I went by your words, and even managed to interpret what you meant over the words you used, and you sit there and tell me I read it wrong. I looked for a solution, you passed blame. I look for positive, you point out the (nonexistent) negative, and then say I'm the negative one. Forgive me if that makes little sense.

Back to topic, since none of this was my point and I've once again allowed myself to by dragged down into a semantics argument, my point still stands. Sheltering is bad parenting. Teaching is good parenting. Why you needed to sidetrack onto Barbie when that was just an example is beyond me, but I'm no expert on the thought processes of others, so I'm not going to smack my head (is: I won't call you an idiot in a veiled manner) because it's unnecessary and, frankly, pointless.