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    Two-Thirds of Americans Don't Know If They Will Insure Under Obamacare

    By: Dan Mangan | Writer
    Published: Monday, 3 Jun 2013 | 12:00 AM ET

    There's no assurance folks will be buying insurance under Obamacare, and that could spell trouble for the Affordable Care Act.
    Nearly two-thirds of Americans who currently lack health insurance don't know yet if they will purchase that coverage by the Jan. 1 deadline set by the ACA, a new survey revealed Monday.

    And less than half of those in the surveyreleased by InsuranceQuotes.com think they'll get better health care after Obamacare takes full effect. Nearly 50 percent believe the ACA will make it more difficult for them to get tests and procedures done in a timely manner, according to the phone survey of 1,001 adult Americans conducted in early May.

    And a whopping 68 percent of low-income Americans aren't sure they qualify for tax credits that would subsidize their purchase of health insurance—despite they fact that they almost invariably will qualify, the survey found. That population is most likely to benefit from government subsidies under the health-care reform law.
    Laura Adams, senior insurance analyst at InsuranceQuotes.com, said public uncertainty about Obamacare—particularly a lack of commitment to signing up—could end up driving up health-insurance costs under the program because not enough healthy people will participate to offset benefits payouts.

    "I was really shocked that 64 percent [of uninsured adults] said they haven't decided if they will purchase insurance by the Jan. 1 deadline," Adams said. "I was definitely surprised by the high number of people who really have no clue what they're going to do next year."
    "We don't want these consumers to miss this key deadline," she said, adding that new heath-care exchanges under Obamacare will begin accepting applications for insurance in less than four months. "They're going to potentially go without health care for the entire year."

    In other findings of the survey, more than 60 percent of Americans said they fear Obamacare will lead to increased health-care costs.

    Just 26 percent predicted such costs will go down under the program, according the survey by InsuranceQuotes, which provides an online marketplace for consumers and insurers to seek and provide quotes for insurance coverage. The web site is part of Bankrate Insurance, an online network owned by Bankrate.com.
    A total of 61 percent of the uninsured they don't having insurance because they can't afford it, the survey found. And a total of 58 percent of all adults—insured or otherwise—didn't know if they will be eligible for tax credits to offset their purchase of health insurance, even though a married couple with two kids could make up to $94,000 and still qualify.

    The survey, which was conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International, had an overall margin of error of 3.6 percent. At total of 83 percent of those surveyed currently have health insurance, while 17 percent were uninsured—which tracks that national proportions.

    Under the ACA, uninsured Americans have until the beginning of 2014 to purchase insurance through health-care exchanges being set up nationwide or other venues—or face a financial penalty. That penalty is equal to $95 per adult, and $47.50 per child, up to a maximum of $285—or 1 percent of household income, whichever is greater.
    Those penalties will escalate in future years.

    Adams of InsuranceQuotes.com said uninsured people might be holding off making a decision on buying health insurance because "folks are saying that the penalty is low."

    "But I have a feeling that it's more that they're not educated," she said.

    "It's not surprising that people are confused and uninformed," Adams said. "It's a complicated system. It involves a lot of detail that the average person, unfortunately, is not going to grasp."

    That confusion not only could hurt individuals' wallets—by making them pay out-of-pocket for health care as needed—but also put financial pressure on insurers offering coverage through exchanges set up under the ACA.

    That system is predicated on the theory that enough healthy people will enroll and buy insurance so that their premiums will offset the costs of benefits for less healthy people in the same plan. If not enough healthy people sign up, Adams noted, insurers will be on the hook for the benefit payouts regardless, cutting into, or erasing their profits.

    "If only the sick enroll," Adams warned, "it could be very precarious for the industry and the cost of insurance."

    Adams said ignorance could hit lower-income Americans particularly hard.

    "There were 68 percent of people who are earning under $30,000, who are not sure what they're going to do," Adams said, despite the fact that "they are certainly eligible" for tax credits to offset the costs of buying insurance under the ACA.

    "They should" sign up, she said.

    Adams noted that if poor adults without dependents live in states that are not expanding their Medicaid programs under Obamacare, they risk not being covered by that health-insurance program despite making the same low wages as adults who have dependents.

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    IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

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    According to http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html the Median household income, 2007-2011 was $52,762. So much for affordable health care.

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    I admit, the more I hear about this particular plan, the less I understand how it's supposed to work. That said, I'm not saying all you conservatives were right, since most of you didn't want any form of healthcare, which is stupid.

    In Canada, I have to pay for my healthcare, unless I make too little (not sure of the number) then it's automatic. I have no idea what you guys are doing.

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    Only in BC is there a direct money grab per individual. Alberta used to have it, but they dumped it.

    last I heard - Lotus Land charges $55.00 to $65.00 per month per individual Money Grab for Health Care in BC. As far as I know it's the only Province that does this now in Canada. They also charge you separate individual prices for shots at the Public Health Office, which is an extended money grab.

    BC is probably the most unfair, unaffordable Province in Canada. Initial Taxation as high as any other Province, then the Health Care money grab.

    BC residents pay enough in Income Tax, Provincial and Federal as well as Sales Tax to offset any medial expenses for their residents, as well as pocketing a boatload of money for their own greedy purposes. Don't even get me started on BC.

    BC Provincial Governments have been Crooked since about 1983 now.

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    Only in BC is there a direct money grab per individual. Alberta used to have it, but they dumped it.

    last I heard - Lotus Land charges $55.00 to $65.00 per month per individual Money Grab for Health Care in BC. As far as I know it's the only Province that does this now in Canada. They also charge you separate individual prices for shots at the Public Health Office, which is an extended money grab.

    BC is probably the most unfair, unaffordable Province in Canada. Initial Taxation as high as any other Province, then the Health Care money grab.

    Well, the only time I've lived outside BC was about 7 months in Calgary, so I go by this system.

    BC residents pay enough in Income Tax, Provincial and Federal as well as Sales Tax to offset any medial expenses for their residents, as well as pocketing a boatload of money for their own greedy purposes. Don't even get me started on BC.

    There's always been an argument on whether it stands for "British Columbia" pr "Bring Cash". This is nothing new.

    BC Provincial Governments have been Crooked since about 1983 now.

    But we've had 3 different brands of Crooked in that time. So-Cred, NDP and New So-Cr..er, Liberal.

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    I admit, the more I hear about this particular plan, the less I understand how it's supposed to work. That said, I'm not saying all you conservatives were right, since most of you didn't want any form of healthcare, which is stupid.

    In Canada, I have to pay for my healthcare, unless I make too little (not sure of the number) then it's automatic. I have no idea what you guys are doing.

    I don't oppose a health care plan, I oppose a mandate. If they want to provide this then that is fine by me. Making it criminal and taking people's tax returns for not participating is what I oppose (along with having no idea how to or plan to fund it). In the future (I think starting in the next year or two) when people do their tax returns, if they don't have private health care and have not signed up for Obamacare then they will lose part of their tax return as a penalty.

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    I am guessing the $200-$300 estimate that they are touting is for individual health care (they don't clarify) as there is no way a private health care plan for a family will be under $300.

    If I am correct on my above assumption, the median income for a single person in California is $29,000 (before taxes) so around $24,700 after taxes. An insurance rate of $200-$300 per month is $2400-$3600 per year or 10-15% of their annual income. It is bad enough that Federal and state taxes already take 10-15% of of our income, now we have them telling us that we HAVE to spend another 10-15% on their health care plan? I am sorry, but I have a real issue with that.

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