Suicide

[Wickabee]

You're missing the point all together. You're focusing on the "me wanting them to stay part"

Why are you always on the other side of what people first post on these threads- you're never the first one to post your opinions. I'm sure it is possible to have the exact opposite opinion as everyone else does on every single topic.

Look what this guy said, words from someone in that situations: Nothing more really needs to be said:



The pain and anguish you leave behind is 19086871 times greater than the pan and anguish of working through your problems together.

So because I see things differently from "the majority" (you) and don't sit here waiting for new threads I must just be contrary, right?
Give me a break.

I'm not going to go into my friend's suicide and how my selfishness and that of others is what caused it, but don't think I'm just being contrary. You obviously don't like me and I couldn't care less, but you need to stop taking cues from veg and alex and aj and stop trying to make everything about me.

[mrveggieman]

So because I see things differently from "the majority" (you) and don't sit here waiting for new threads I must just be contrary, right?
Give me a break.

I'm not going to go into my friend's suicide and how my selfishness and that of others is what caused it, but don't think I'm just being contrary. You obviously don't like me and I couldn't care less, but you need to stop taking cues from veg and alex and aj and stop trying to make everything about me.

How the hell did I get into this?

[Wickabee]

It's a pattern thing. I notice more than drug references.

[PoseyBuster]

How the hell did I get into this?

Cuz youre cute.

[mrveggieman]

Cuz youre cute.

Wow I never knew that you were interested.

[centrehice]

I think where the real problem lies, is that a person considering this will show outward signs that they need help. Where the survivors of suicide are selfish, lies in the fact that they often missed those clues of help, or chose to ignore them.

If you are a child and your parents are not showing you love, but only allowing you to live in under their strict discipline, even to the point of abuse, then you are selfish for burdening your child to the point that they committed such an act. You are left with guilt, as a portion of your behaviour strengthened their decision.

You often see men and women commit suicide when their spouse has committed adultery and waved it in their face. The surviving spouse realizes that their behaviour, like it or not, has contributed to the final act.

Is that final act selfish? Partially so, but a surviving member that may be the partial cause of that act does not want the shame heaped on them.

It's easy to not realize a downtrodden person's anxiety. When suicide is caused by depression, then society never understands, because they cannot put their finger on a specific issue as the driver, or a specific other person as the co-contributor.

All I can say is that if you know a person who is in and out of the throes of depression, offer them solace, guidance, & always be there for them, because they need you more than you will ever know.

[ajcorleone]

Hey now I have stayed low don't bring me into it

So because I see things differently from "the majority" (you) and don't sit here waiting for new threads I must just be contrary, right?
Give me a break.

I'm not going to go into my friend's suicide and how my selfishness and that of others is what caused it, but don't think I'm just being contrary. You obviously don't like me and I couldn't care less, but you need to stop taking cues from veg and alex and aj and stop trying to make everything about me.

[Wickabee]

I think where the real problem lies, is that a person considering this will show outward signs that they need help. Where the survivors of suicide are selfish, lies in the fact that they often missed those clues of help, or chose to ignore them.

If you are a child and your parents are not showing you love, but only allowing you to live in under their strict discipline, even to the point of abuse, then you are selfish for burdening your child to the point that they committed such an act. You are left with guilt, as a portion of your behaviour strengthened their decision.

You often see men and women commit suicide when their spouse has committed adultery and waved it in their face. The surviving spouse realizes that their behaviour, like it or not, has contributed to the final act.

Is that final act selfish? Partially so, but a surviving member that may be the partial cause of that act does not want the shame heaped on them.

It's easy to not realize a downtrodden person's anxiety. When suicide is caused by depression, then society never understands, because they cannot put their finger on a specific issue as the driver, or a specific other person as the co-contributor.

All I can say is that if you know a person who is in and out of the throes of depression, offer them solace, guidance, & always be there for them, because they need you more than you will ever know.

Beautifully put.

[shrewsbury]

Don't have to, committing suicide IS one of the most selfish things you can do.

saying this is perhaps more selfish.

so having a mental illness and not getting the help you need is selfish? perhaps you could not afford the help, perhaps you are too ill to seek it, perhaps your family/friends did not take it seriously, perhaps a bully or other event set it off.

mental illness comes in many forms and just because someone was not diagnosed prior to the suicide does not mean they were not ill.

have you ever had someone close to you commit suicide? I am guessing maybe not.

[JustAlex]

A person's life is his/her's to decide what to do with it.

If one wants to end it in his own way....I'm ok with that.