Lord stanley's heroes/Futures question

[adamslogik]

Does anyone else think that the odds on these were GROSSLY miscalculated and misrepresented?

1:720 odds on the heroes (1 in every 2.5 cases)
1:2880 on the Futures (1 in 10 cases)


I have seen a TON of these pulled. Guys buying 4 or 5 boxes and hitting 2 stanley cup heroes.


I feel like the same might be true of the Shining stars rainbows
1:1440 packs (1 in every 5 cases)

I kind of feels to me like the odds may have been misprinted with an extra zero on the end which would put them at:

Lord stanleys heroes 1:72 packs (4 per case)
Lord stanleys futures 1:288 (1 per case)
Shining stars rainbow 1:144 (2 per case)

I don't know if this is the case, but it would be alot more accurate to what I have seen in people's breaks.

Can anyone who has opened cases of this stuff let me know what you think?

Does anyone know anyone over at UD who can confirm that the odds are accurate, because they really don't seem that way.

[mint39]

Wouldnt be the first time upper deck lied
They even printed fake yugioh cards- whats that tell u

[Yzerfan]

Your numbers make much more sense because I have been seeing the same thing. There are 267 listings on ebay for Lord Stanley's Heroes alone.

[09232003]

not sure what to think yet
I sat next to a guy who opened a case and did not hit a single Stanley's heroes and I opened 2 boxes and score a Patrick roy

more to come iguess

jim

[CoolHandLuke]

Interesting. I think case breaker will be helpful in figuring this one out.

[thorni2]

Adamslogik please break 10 cases and tell us the results. You are just assuming from a few examples and telling a false truth.

[87sluggo]

Adamslogik please break 10 cases and tell us the results. You are just assuming from a few examples and telling a false truth.

Ok, first off, there's absolutely no reason for antagonizing remarks. We're all friends here, right? Adam's just going by what he's seen personally and what he's seen on eBay

Second, I think the ratio numbers are probably right because a TON of this stuff has been cracked since its release, who knows but there might be as much 13/14 UD1 as there was 90/91 Pro-Set hahahaaa. My wee LCS sold 9 cases in a day and a half, and the local eBay sellers here are teeming with auctions. I bought a box from the 10th case at the shop and hit a Taylor Hall Rainbow, the store owner said the only other Rainbow he knew of from the previous 9 cases was a Chris Stewart. And don't forget there are different ratio numbers for different positions for the Rainbows, some are less that 1:1440. AND don't forget that there are A LOT of different case hits.

Third, there is no third. It's 1:35AM, g'nite.

[Mphoenix]

The ratios are probably just right but they are averages so it's possible (and even probable given how UD's been doing things recently - see this year's OPC) that there are hot cases around with several of these scarce hits. I witnessed one live case break at the local expo on Saturday and that case had no Lord Stanley's cards. One Shining Stars rainbow was pulled though, along with a Day with the Cup insert. The true "case hits" which seem to be guaranteed at one per each case are the Signature Sensations, Clearcut acetates and Hockey Heroes header/painting card.

[Gibby]

Second, I think the ratio numbers are probably right because a TON of this stuff has been cracked since its release, who knows but there might be as much 13/14 UD1 as there was 90/91 Pro-Set hahahaaa. My wee LCS sold 9 cases in a day and a half, and the local eBay sellers here are teeming with auctions. I bought a box from the 10th case at the shop and hit a Taylor Hall Rainbow, the store owner said the only other Rainbow he knew of from the previous 9 cases was a Chris Stewart. And don't forget there are different ratio numbers for different positions for the Rainbows, some are less that 1:1440. AND don't forget that there are A LOT of different case hits.

Sluggo has it dead right. I broke a case and one Rainbow one Lord Stanley the odds are probably dead on.

Everyone should remember when you break a case you have 288 chances at 30 different Shining stars and 100+ Lord Stanley

[CoolHandLuke]

I guess I was lucky, I pulled a Galchenyuk Shinning stars rainbow, one Clearcut Stoppers and one Hockey Heroes header out of three hobby boxes, plus many other card like combination of Huberdeau YG and Canvas and Hamiton YG and canvas and MacKinnon, Grigorenko, Monahan YG. Can't complain!