Crisis in Ukraine

[pwaldo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ps-Crimea.html

Vladimir Putin was overseeing Russian tank manoeuvres yesterday as his troops tightened their grip on the Crimea.

Ukraine has effectively lost control of the peninsula and admits it has ‘no military options’ to make Moscow withdraw.

Although the Russian president has kept his silence on the crisis, his foreign minister said Russian troops were protecting people from ‘ultra-nationalist threats’ and would be staying put.

Justifying military action, Sergei Lavrov said: ‘This is a question of defending our citizens and compatriots, ensuring human rights, especially the right to life.’

Ukrainian commanders claimed yesterday they are being blackmailed into defecting to the Russian side.

One said he had been given an ultimatum to surrender his garrison or face a ‘storm’ – with threats made against the lives of his family and his subordinates.

Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Delyatitsky, who leads a marine battalion, said he had been told by telephone to give in and make an oath of allegiance to the pro-Russian ‘puppet’ regime in Crimea.

His is one of the few Crimean unit not to be taken over by pro-Russian troops.

Ukrainian officials said Aleksander Vitkoset, the head of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, had set the deadline.

However the Russian ministry of defence said the idea of an ultimatum was ‘complete nonsense’. It accused Ukraine of trying to spark war by making the allegations, adding: ‘Efforts to make us clash won’t work.’

No shots have been fired in the conflict but an estimated 10,000 Russian soldiers are said to have been deployed to the Crimea.

[ajcorleone]

ANd we have people on here bashing this country we live in.BAH HA HA HA imagine living in this mess

[shrewsbury]

and what will Obama do about the treaty signed by us and others to protect them? oh, and it was signed by a favorite democratic president, not a war mongering republican.

[ajcorleone]

Hmm you here those crickets.I sure do but don't worry it will get blamed on the GOP,Bush<Reagan maybe Howard STern or George Steinbrenner

and what will Obama do about the treaty signed by us and others to protect them? oh, and it was signed by a favorite democratic president, not a war mongering republican.

[Wickabee]

ANd we have people on here bashing this country we live in.BAH HA HA HA imagine living in this mess

"It's worse elsewhere so take it and shut up" is your thought pattern?

So you believe it's only worth making things better if there's nothing else worse? That's terrible thinking.

[habsheaven]

I have no idea what Obama will do. What would the people criticizing Obama suggest he do?

[Wickabee]

Hmm you here those crickets.I sure do but don't worry it will get blamed on the GOP,Bush<Reagan maybe Howard STern or George Steinbrenner

Only because I've seen it multiple times and am starting to suspect it's more a mistake than a typo now: hear. The one that's about listening has "ear" in it.

[shrewsbury]

habs, I would suggest he first needs to take a drink so he can wash down the words he ate, when he said to Romney (during debates) "the 80's are calling" and russia is not a threat.

my suggestion would be to not talk smack and think ahead. don't act like everyone else is a war monger when you have not been in their shoes at that time.

so now do we sacrifice more lives, spend more money, and create a new war to keep a promise signed by no other than Obama's good pal Clinton?
or like the Constitution will he not be obligated to stand by things he doesn't see fit?

wick, I HEAR you

[habsheaven]

habs, I would suggest he first needs to take a drink so he can wash down the words he ate, when he said to Romney (during debates) "the 80's are calling" and russia is not a threat.

my suggestion would be to not talk smack and think ahead. don't act like everyone else is a war monger when you have not been in their shoes at that time.

so now do we sacrifice more lives, spend more money, and create a new war to keep a promise signed by no other than Obama's good pal Clinton?
or like the Constitution will he not be obligated to stand by things he doesn't see fit?

wick, I HEAR you

I'm sorry Jay, I do not see an answer to the question. I see a whole lot of shoulda, coulda, woulda. followed by a repeat of my question. This is no different than every other incident; blame Obama, no matter what he does and try to attach what is happening now to his actions in the past. Again, what should OBAMA do NOW.

[Wickabee]

You know, with the fact that treaty exists, and with the fact Ukraine cannot defend itself against Russia, I'm actually kind of for going into this one. This is the global level bullying Americans love to say they always go in and stop, but now who signed and said what is such a big issue? This is petty. At the end of the day, Iraq was the bungle. There was no reason to go in, as there was with Afghanistan and now Ukraine. It cost so much, and was so underhanded that now more Americans than ever don't trust war. Many who do don't trust this President, so they use this to put him in a corner instead of do what's right. Bravo.

If you hadn't gone into Iraq, this wouldn't be a question, you'd have been in Ukraine yesterday.