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03-08-2014, 06:30 PM #1
Crosby & Malkin hobby value comparision
After checking out some completed listings of Crosby & Malkin spx rookie cards. I noticed Crosby has an incredibly higher premium on his cards. Is this because he is Canadian born & Malkin is from Russia? I know many believe they are comparable players and a couple of the best in the NHL. If they are so comparable why are Crosby's cards so much more expensive?
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03-08-2014, 07:15 PM #2
Crosby is the best player in the world and it's not really close. Crosby has been hyped as the next Gretzky since he was 14. 05-06 rookie class always commands a bigger increase for the top guys. Russian is a slight factor but not much IMO.
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03-08-2014, 07:37 PM #3
In terms of players, Malkin and Crosby aren't close.
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03-08-2014, 09:13 PM #4
They are very close in ability, people act like Crosby is 100% better than the next best player...but he is Not in another league like Gretzky and Mario...There has always been talk of the next one....the one being Gretzky, but there have been None save for Mario. Crosby maybe the best at accumulating points, but not by a huge margin, and he cheats offensively, has no physical game and average at best defensively. Plus he is easily rattled in the play-offs, and not the best leader. All round best, Toews.
When Crosby was injured, Malkin stepped up and won the Art Ross....The Russian factor is HUGE....How many Russian's do you see buying and selling on Ebay????
Anyhoo flame away, the best player is the one with the most points in the regular season right?...or maybe not so much anymore...
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03-08-2014, 09:52 PM #5
Moon other than explain why you think Toews is a better player all you did is say Malkin is Russian. Which is definitely a factor in any players values because traditionally Russian born players don't hold market value as well as others. But...
Crosby is the face of the franchise, the face of the league, speaks English properly (sorry Geno, love you but half the time I have no idea what you're saying), and after meeting him a few times is actually quite humble and down to earth for a relative kid who's worth millions and millions of dollars. It makes him relatable, marketable, likeable, and a good roll model. In the current market of premier athletes who end up with criminal records in the offseason, use drugs, are under investigation by the fbi, or the multitude of other problems in the sports world, this is rather refreshing. It makes it easy to want to collect him.
As a complete aside though if you ever want to be highly entertained watch Geno or Flower give interviews. Both of them slip between perfectly coherent and completely incoherent and it's hilarious. Flower it's really confusing because he speaks pretty fluent English so it makes it even more striking.
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03-08-2014, 11:06 PM #6
^ um, think I said tad more than that, The NHL isn't in Russia, do they even sell hockey cards there?...anyhoo, I actually think Crosby is a bit arrogant, when reporters start their interview with, "as the world's best player"....Crosby doesn't even blink an eye, or say anything about his teammates or other players as other's often will do in that situation....One of the coolest things I ever saw was when 99 was wearing a mic during a game and he passed the puck to the other team, he sat down by Mess and said, "guess that is why they call me the Great one."
As for drugs and crime, I don't know too many NHL superstars who are Criminals??? And the ability to speak perfect english, well thats the thing, it is like he is prepackaged CORPORATE marketing spokesman/PR guy for the NHL and products, and is Boring as Can be! We don't know or see any of his private life, his GF, or if he has a personality. Maybe in real life he is a "real character" like Ovy but we don't know, most everything he says is preplanned to Make him a PRODUCT. So yeah I agree why the average young person would want to consume "him" more than any other NHL player, and pay MORE, because he is MARKETED as a "poster boy" for the NHL. Marketing is extremely powerful and makes him more "valuable" to consumers.
I think that answer's the OP's question, or not....jmho
The rest is just my bias, I don't collect or relate to him because of the fact he is so Vanilla and guarded, too dull and corporate for me.
That is just me though, we all have are faves, and I am in the minority when it comes to not being a Crosby fan.
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03-09-2014, 12:15 AM #7
My statement about criminal behavior in sports was directed at all sports. Every season peoples NFL fantasy teams are effected by arrests. That's pretty messed up. Yes I think the way he handles himself has been pre-designed and he has handlers and PR people telling him exactly what to say to how to say it. The other option? Lebron James who holds a half hour television special just to tell people which team (and why) he's decided to sign with. So ironically we completely agree on this aspect of him.
BTW yep they sell cards in Russia. The KHL is in Russia. The league has lost players to that league (Jagr being the most notable). Not only that there have been a few KHL licensed card sets released that I've seen. I am sure there are very dedicated Russian collectors out there. But in North America outside of Pittsburgh you just don't see as high of a demand on Geno because he's never going to get the attention like Sid. His cards do sell very well in the Pittsburgh area though and he's very loved.
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03-09-2014, 12:25 AM #8
Russia????? I don't think being Russian has anything to do with it. Look at Ovi. I would say he is just a tad behind Crosby as far as popularity among collectors. The gap between Crosby and Malkin IMO is something they have in common. They both play on the same team. I think if Malkin was a number 1 on another successful team he would be right up there. It's not going to happen playing with "the best player in the world". As far as talent, they are both very, very talented. My opinion.
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03-09-2014, 03:09 AM #9
Being Russian does have a ton to do with it. Ovechkin is no where near Crosby with cash values. NO CURRENT player is even close with cash values. The topic isnt about "whos more popular" or "whos more talented" .... it was all about the all mighty dollar
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03-09-2014, 11:37 AM #10
Being Russian does not have a huge impact only a slight impact if that. You cant compare Ovy (or anyone at that) to Crosby because Crosby is the face of the NHL the face of Hockey. If being Russian has a ton to do with it why does Ovy crush Toews in terms of cash values? Why does Malkin outsell Toews?
There is a reason why Gretzky outsells all vintage players and a reason why Crosby outsells all modern day players.
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