Inspired by habs

[JustAlex]

the death penalty is not about justice or revenge, but protecting society from those who cannot be trusted to follow simple moral laws. it is a mere act of self defense and it increases the chance of survival for those that do follow some form of moral code.

the issue I have with a life sentence is they are still part of society, they are commiting crimes in prison, they can escape, and we are paying for them to live.

Believe it or not Shrew....it costs MORE to execute people than to pay for them to live...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

^Look at California, look how much it costs us to execute people.....a HELL lot more than keeping them alive.

[Wickabee]

Part of the cost of execution is keeping them alive until the execution, is it not?

[shrewsbury]

alex, because we have to do it with tons of regulations. these people don't deserve anything humane, death by a bullet, sword, or rope is pretty dang cheap.

[Wickabee]

alex, because we have to do it with tons of regulations. these people don't deserve anything humane, death by a bullet, sword, or rope is pretty dang cheap.

Yeah, but the guys to work them cost a fortune.

[ajcorleone]

This is correct that's is because it takes 10 to 15 years and 18 to 20 appeals to FINALLY execute. All suspects should e granted their due process and once your third appeal goes down 3 strikes and your our. But not in this society.

Part of the cost of execution is keeping them alive until the execution, is it not?

[Wickabee]

This is correct that's is because it takes 10 to 15 years and 18 to 20 appeals to FINALLY execute. All suspects should e granted their due process and once your third appeal goes down 3 strikes and your our. But not in this society.

Well, I also have a bit of a problem with how much people like to base the justice system on baseball.

[duane1969]

I honestly don't see it even doing that, but that would be getting speculative.

Don't use moth balls. Take used coffee grounds, dry them out, then sprinkle it in your garden. Unused grounds are too acidic, but brewed coffee doesn't hurt your plants. It's natural, being coffee, does add minute amounts of nutrient to the soil (though most everything has been leeched already in brewing, hence the low acidity) and you can put down as much or as little as it takes to work without it looking stupid (brown like dirt).

Haven't seen cat crap in my garden in 2 years.

I agree. It is speculative that showing them would have any impact at all. There is always the risk that it goes from being a deterrent to being a pay-per-view event LOL

Believe it or not Shrew....it costs MORE to execute people than to pay for them to live...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

^Look at California, look how much it costs us to execute people.....a HELL lot more than keeping them alive.

First, cost aside, a murderer does not have the right to live their life in any form of comfort. I would be fine with life in prison if that sentence didn't include television, a comfy bed, healthy meals, etc. Give them a hard cot in a concrete room with basic food and nothing to do but contemplate their actions and how horrible the rest of their life will be and I am all for it.

Second, I read that article and I don't see how the cots to prosecute a death penalty would be so much greater than a life-in-prison case. I can see it being more, but not such a monumental amount more. And a lot of the post-conviction cost is because of so many appeals that they are allowed to have. They should not have the right to any more appeals than any other prisoner.

[boba]

I really don't know what to think about the death penalty, there have been great points brought up on both sides so far. I used to be all for the death penalty, but the Timothy Masters case that went down here in Fort Collins really shook me up and made me think about it more before shooting my mouth off about the topic.

I think there probably should be a death penalty at some point, but what that point is? I don't know. On the other hand, as humans, we will continue to make mistakes, and life is too precious to play around with.

So, like I said, I have no clue.

[Wickabee]

I'm dead serious about the coffee Duane.

[duane1969]

I'm dead serious about the coffee Duane.

LOL I will give it a shot. Those dang mothballs look like crap anyway.