Is There A Worse Player In The NHL Than Kyle Clifford?

[Wickabee]

I didn't say that, there was a good rumour going around that he was Ron Wilson's eyes and ear's in the dressing room, that's why it was no big deal he left Calgary and I have to say when he came here from the trade, he was one of the top 10 d-men in the NHL, now you look at him and he might not be in the top 25, nowhere near the same player, we were season ticket holders at the OLD HOUSE, MLG, my dad was the biggest Leaf fan, and when he seen them loosing to expansion teams, he gave up the tickets, I remember when they won the Stanley Cup in 1967, 47 long years ago, centrehice, you have one of the biggest goons ever in hockey on your team, Bertuzzi, ask Moore about the cheap shot that ended his playing time in the NHL, now he play's like a guy that should retire and let a kid take his place.

One horrendous incident does not a "goon" make.

[MR.M's Cards]

phaneuf or reimer either one will suffice

[Crosby 87]

Read through and still don't know why Clifford is horrible despite "G.I. Joe Jungle Grip Hands." whatever that means

[centrehice]

Cement hands. Not that hard.

[cygnusx1]

Cement hands. Not that hard.

And every single player in the league is drafted with the vision that they'll be a 50 goal scorer. Ever heard of a grinder?

[Devlin]

Averages 10 min + a game, 8 pts, 81 min penalties, +6, typical 4th line, not bad

[Crosby 87]

Cement hands. Not that hard.

I would of guessed death grips on the stick

[michiganice91]

Kyle Quincey is pretty terrible.

[the_nange]

Stu Bickel, who's almost John Scott light.

[piper1]

How about Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dummer for the Leafs. Take you pick between Orr and McLaren as they have 0 points between them and are a combined -5. And don't try the "but they are enforcers" argument as they frequently declined fight invitations in the second half of the season.