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No crosby, no stamkos. No selanne.
Probably need to get thru 25 cases to hit couple decent cards.
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On the flip-side, there is Orr & Gretzky which Panini can't even do. Not picking on Panini because I do like their products, but trying to add some counter-weight to this.
That said, there are some rough /99 RCs in here. Could have easily been trimmed to 10-12 I think. While they do fall 1/case, I do believe that they won't be the best card coming from a case... Autos, Auto Patches from other players etc will bulk up the value here IMO.
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Whether a box price will increase a lot well beyond the release date, depends upon the product. In general, the initial release has limited availability so it sells out to create demand. The distributors purposely make a small amount of cases available for sale for the "first wave". After that, the distributors raise the price and hope there's a rush for the "second wave" (which they again limit) and they'll reap better profit. If that works in their favour, the "third wave" will then be offered at an even higher price, and on it goes.
There are times when the second wave falters and then a few months later, the box price goes back down to the original release price and if sales are stagnant in the following months, the product could eventually be offered at less than the original release price, to clear it out. It's all supply and demand however we as consumers should recognize that the supply side is being manipulated by the distributors to increase demand and raise prices.
Another common thing done by distributors with popular products, it to require a dealer to purchase less popular wax in order to get the popular wax. So to get the product that everyone's clamoring for, the dealer will be forced to buy a certain number of poor selling cases. The dealers recognize it'll be hard to move something that's not being sought after unless they discount its price, so they raise the price of the popular wax to make up for the lower price they'll market the poor selling boxes at.
Since the next Cup issue will contain rookies from 2 years (similar to the 05/06 year), I expect it'll be popular so the distributors will again limit the amount released and it will follow the usual pattern after that.
As for the 05/06 Cup, it's original release price was $330 including gst (Canadian tax), then the second wave went for around $400 and after that, it was around $450 then $500 then $600 until a dealer here in Edmonton was selling it for around $750/box and that was about a year to a year and a half after its initial release. It was hard to find anywhere at that point and rumour had it that many people were hoarding unopened cases/boxes, hoping to cash in on the Crosby/Ovechkin hype later down the road.
"theboxbreaker96" mentioned that most boxes won't have the content to justify the box price, since the popular/valuable hits will be few and far between. That's usually true for all wax...yet people still fork out the dough to gamble on the "big hit" with most people disappointed and few rewarded. Luckily for collectors chasing specific singles/sets, there are usually enough "gamblers" willing to spend $$$ opening wax hoping to do well and those same box openers later sell their cards to recoup their outlay...and usually they always lose money. It's extremely rare to find wax which gives you a matching return on its initial cost or anything close to it.
So as always, it's up to you how you collect and spend your hard-earned money. Is the thrill of opening new wax worth the money and the likely loss? If not, let others take the risk but hopefully you'll be reasonable with what you pay to buy their singles, knowing almost all of them have already taken a hit.
A rare knowledgeable post - thank you!
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Topps Gold Label is right! Except this year the 2nd and 3rd wave of orders, wax prices are lower since too much product was produced. Prices are coming back lower and lower. Good for everyone opening boxes and single collectors.
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Just purchased my case today. 1540$ shipping and taxes included. Is that a good price? I think it's not too bad. 102$ per box. What do you guys think?
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I can't even pick a team in group break because checklist is so weak.
Had to take buffalo. ...for $40
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Minnesota and Florida aren't bad for the price and they have a lot of rcs. Minnesota has 4 auto rcs. Fontaine, Dumba, Granlund and Coyle /99. Buffalo is still a good choice with Zemgus, Grigo and Risto!
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Looks to me like you got a pretty good price there 10-4 collector!
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Minnesota and Florida aren't bad for the price and they have a lot of rcs. Minnesota has 4 auto rcs. Fontaine, Dumba, Granlund and Coyle /99. Buffalo is still a good choice with Zemgus, Grigo and Risto!
Minnesota was my 2nd choice :)
But it was $50
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the short and simple answer I know to be true and correct is.... wait for it.... "does a bear poop in the woods ?"
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