Preview: Leaf ITG Superlative Vault

[Cunnuc]

Part of the fun of collecting for me is amassing such a collection on a budget. If I were rich and could afford everything I wouldn't see the point in it.

Collecting 1/1s from actual releases that could have been pulled by other people are cards I want in my collection because it would make me feel good about obtaining such a card. Expo 1/1s I don't feel actually count in someone's collection if they're trying to collect every card released of a certain player.

These Vault 1/1s are no exception but for me it's nice to see such a wide variety of cards that I could add to my collection possibly for cheap, like a Clark/Gilmour/Leeman hard-signed auto card.

An Expo 1/1 or a Vault 1/1 of Gilmour shouldn't be something you should be searching for when trying to collect 100% of Gilmour's cards. For me though growing up watching Toronto I wouldn't at all mind buying some Vault 1/1s of Toronto players eventhough I am Detroit collector.

[iidaemmi]

Part of the fun of collecting for me is amassing such a collection on a budget. If I were rich and could afford everything I wouldn't see the point in it.

Collecting 1/1s from actual releases that could have been pulled by other people are cards I want in my collection because it would make me feel good about obtaining such a card. Expo 1/1s I don't feel actually count in someone's collection if they're trying to collect every card released of a certain player.

These Vault 1/1s are no exception but for me it's nice to see such a wide variety of cards that I could add to my collection possibly for cheap, like a Clark/Gilmour/Leeman hard-signed auto card.

An Expo 1/1 or a Vault 1/1 of Gilmour shouldn't be something you should be searching for when trying to collect 100% of Gilmour's cards. For me though growing up watching Toronto I wouldn't at all mind buying some Vault 1/1s of Toronto players eventhough I am Detroit collector.

First. If and when you own biggest collection on planet, and if you wanna keep it that way, then you go after all new cards.
Second. I want to decide, all collector's want to decide. I don't want that the card company will make the decision for me, like it does now (when is time limit your collection)

Harri

[Cunnuc]

True. If you missed any Gilmours in the actual Superlative releases because they were numbered so low this is a way to get a stamped version of them at least.

And kudos to your Gilmour collection :) He was my most memorable Maple Leaf when growing up besides maybe Wendel Clark. Actually Pat Quinn having two black eyes from pucks flying over the boards is my most memorable moment of the Leafs haha.

[Gallinator]

I've been watching all the debate on this, and I think it's time I jumped in.

It really comes down to this - if you are a collector, and there are more cards for you to possibly add to your collection, this is a good thing...how could it not be? I personally would love to add some of the Perreault cards from this, especially ones I missed the first time around because they were quickly picked up due to scarcity or too rich for my blood. Still haven't been able to snag any, though.

If value and price is all you are concerned with, I can see how some could be concerned - but lets face it, buyer beware to anything you hang on to in hopes of the value increasing - that's the name of the game.

It's a little disheartening seeing these beautiful cards that we will never see be released again due to the end of ITG out there and circulating making people angry. This hobby and / or business is always evolving - nothing stays the same. Stay nimble and you lower the risk of getting burned.

Just my opinion of course!

I agree with this 100%!

It felt great being able to open 5 boxes of this stuff without breaking the bank AND with the probability of getting most or all of my money back (we'll see what eBay does over the weekend with my Orr 1/1 LOL) AND getting a chance to add one or two PC cards at the same time. How often does THAT occur in hockey card collecting? I can count the number of times on two hands and most of them involve ITG products.

If you have the world's largest "Player A" collection, you must constantly be chasing that dragon to maintain your position. When you get to the point where you DON'T want to see a card of your beloved player released, isn't it time to reassess whether you are still enjoying the hobby/obsession? Just a thought, not an attack.

[canucksfan007]

I have to ask, really Bud? And big smile
It really depends whom you collect. Do you have any clue how expensive all new Gilmour stuff are, when you try to get em all.. Last year they produced 228 new Gilmour cards. Mostly mid/high ends, tonns of 1/1, /3, /5, /10 cards etc. Also ITG has already produced a plenty of expo /same stuff in previous years. Did I wanted 50 (atleast) new Gilmour 1/1 cards? NO, I don't even want to see them. Now they're out and I really do not intend to praise how great these re-stamped cards are.


Harri

Collecting sounds like a chore for you ...... you arnt getting an allowance to get them all ... so why are you so worried

[iidaemmi]

Collecting sounds like a chore for you ...... you arnt getting an allowance to get them all ... so why are you so worried

Yes, it could be a part of the story. Anyway, I shared the Finnish forum opinions and surprisingly, and compared to this forum and HI, there was a very little understanding for this series.

Harri

[iidaemmi]

True. If you missed any Gilmours in the actual Superlative releases because they were numbered so low this is a way to get a stamped version of them at least.

And kudos to your Gilmour collection :) He was my most memorable Maple Leaf when growing up besides maybe Wendel Clark. Actually Pat Quinn having two black eyes from pucks flying over the boards is my most memorable moment of the Leafs haha.

I liked very much the superlative sets, it was a best part of ITG, but I hate those stamped cards and expo redemptions simply because they made those too much. Also ITG Ultimate set was a pretty nice, I have a many great ITG Ultimate cards. Also Heroes & Prospects and Between the Pipes were fine series.

Great to hear your Gilmour story!

Harri

[thorni2]

Yes, it could be a part of the story. Anyway, I shared the Finnish forum opinions and surprisingly, and compared to this forum and HI, there was a very little understanding for this series.

Harri

Everyone should collect what they want. Too much negativity all around.

[sedinfan]

I totally understand where Harri's coming from... As a fellow super collector, you spend a decade or more chasing every single card of your PC guy(s) and it's a lot of fun, you get nearly to the 100 pct mark, then a new set comes out and you have some new goodies to chase. And then one day, it's not quite as much fun...

For me that point was midway through the Panini era, when seemingly every set had 10-15 parallels of the jersey, prime, patch, auto/jersey, auto/prime, auto/patch etc. It really felt like Panini didn't believe they could truly compete head-on with UD and decided to try to take advantage of the OCD of people like me who wanted one of everything to provide the secondary market support to drive their sales. I realized I wasn't enjoying this, and stopped paying the 'first-copy-on-ebay' premium, deciding to only pick up these 'parahell' cards if they were available at very reasonable prices. My completion percentage suffered a bit (in the first two Panini years I need only 4 cards, the next two years I need 17 from the period where I became more selective). It was really difficult to change the way I collected for some 15-odd years, the holes in my PC that I could have filled if I'd jumped on the first (overpriced) copy to surface gnaw at me a bit, but overall I didn't feel as taken advantage of by Panini and ultimately I'm happy with my decision.

For me, I've never been particularly bothered by a plethora of 1/1's since I put them in a separate category, but I totally understand that every collector has different criteria, and can see how oodles of new Gilmour 1/1's that aren't really "new" cards can start to feel a bit more like work than fun, it's Harri's version of my Panini parahell distaste. At the same time, I can't imagine Dr. Price destroying all these gorgeous cards, and am enjoying the Sedin Vault 1/1 chase. I hope the new Leaf/ITG come up with some exciting new cards that we both enjoy adding to our PC's in future sets :)

[iidaemmi]

Everyone should collect what they want. Too much negativity all around.

Says a man who burns ITG at every turn :)

Harri