Is Beckett price guide still relevant?

[cwpucks]

Is Beckett price guide still relevant? I ask this questions because i have a hockey annual price guide #10 from 2000. So 20 years ago, and a lot of the prices for vintage cards 1910 to say mid 1980's are close or the same after 20 years. But if you look at say Baseball most of the prices have adjusted overtime. Heck heck baseballs vintage adjust every 6 months.

I was going to ask James Beckett this question this year. He was going to be a online guest for a Shop owner in my town but there was technical difficulty so he was never on. I know MR Beckett sold the Beckett price guides in around 2004.

This is just something i have always wondered why Beckett does not adjust prices for hockey to show an approximate real value. Come on they still have Jesse Puljujarvi's Young Gun at $8-20. When it goes for $2-4 the price of a common. And McDavid Young Gun Ungraded for $200-300. I think most people wish they could get one for that price.

Just wondering what most people use for pricing.

Thanks

[volkov956]

i use the annual for finding and building PC but overall pricing its too much like the stock market as of late all over the place aka volatile but beckett does not try and keep current either

[icefields]

i find some people use it when its to their advantage, but when they disagree with it use ebay sales when that works to their advantage. remember i said some people.
some traders equate a white patch the same trade value wise as a three colour patch.
collectors dont seem to care as much as flippers.

[MR.M's Cards]

no

[30ranfordfan]

No, it's not.

Having said that, there are some people who still use it..... and some of those insist on using it, when making a deal. Personally, I'm okay with it. If you want to use BVs to make sure a trade is fair, cool. In the end, if it looks fair to me too - why should I care where those values came from?

Of course you've shown a great example of the problem with Beckett. If someone is trying to pass their Pulljarvi YG off as a $20 card, a fair swap for it might be a Crosby Portraits insert that also has a BV in the $15-$20 range. Really we're trading a couple of cards that are worth no more than a buck or two each, but a book says they're worth much more. Not a big deal.

If you think that Pulljarvi is a fair trade for a current year YG that has a similar BV, well, that's no longer a fair trade (and nobody is going to make it).

If you're selling that Pulljarvi, and trying to get "half of BV", so you want $10 for it.... well, good luck. Nobody is going to pay that ever.... and if someone does offer you $5 dlvd (keep in mind, it will cost you about $3 to mail it to them) - If you get upset about the "low ball" offer, you're nuts.

[cwpucks]

Thanks. Thats what i was thinking but being into Vintage and some current hockey there are not many people i know in my area that are into the same thing. well in Mich we have hockey card collectors but if they are its mainly Red Wings. Most do not know anyone else out side of the big stars in the league and hobby. so its good to hear others who know how to say Sean Couturie name correctly, view on the hobby.

[Stryfex]

not relevant at all

there are a few collectors who like to use it and are very adamant that everyone else should - but it's a relic at this point

[Savard18]

Is Beckett price guide still relevant? I ask this questions because i have a hockey annual price guide #10 from 2000. So 20 years ago, and a lot of the prices for vintage cards 1910 to say mid 1980's are close or the same after 20 years. But if you look at say Baseball most of the prices have adjusted overtime. Heck heck baseballs vintage adjust every 6 months.

I was going to ask James Beckett this question this year. He was going to be a online guest for a Shop owner in my town but there was technical difficulty so he was never on. I know MR Beckett sold the Beckett price guides in around 2004.

This is just something i have always wondered why Beckett does not adjust prices for hockey to show an approximate real value. Come on they still have Jesse Puljujarvi's Young Gun at $8-20. When it goes for $2-4 the price of a common. And McDavid Young Gun Ungraded for $200-300. I think most people wish they could get one for that price.

Just wondering what most people use for pricing.

Thanks

Well, apparently Beckett's old method of placing value on cards was via dealers surveys from collectors that would take the survey and that is how Beckett would asses card values..... Of course now we have ebay - which IMO is the "ultimate survey" when determining the value of a card...... But really, I could go either way because usually a card that books for 20 on ebay will be listed on Beckett for 50.00, so it essentially evens out in trades.

[Nickwire]

I use it like the overstreet guide for comics. More a reference guide for appearances than prices