Tim Hortons question

[icefields]

i was just going thru ebay (have a bit of free time)
and i found a guy/gal that has over 150 Tim Hortons jersey & auto cards up for auction
i was just wondering since these are rare cards, how do you suppose someone would go about acquiring that many
any thoughts?

[RGM81]

Without knowing who the seller is, it's all speculation.

There's a lot of collectors out there for whom money is no object. If it's a wide range of those cards from over the years, it just takes timing and patience.

If it's a guy with multiple copies of stuff, well, the same could apply above but it looks a little shady.

Devil is in the details.

[mooneyes]

Not as rare or expensive but I have near a 100 Artifacts patches from the 12/13 set, most # to 15 or less.
It just comes down to being obsessed and still hunting for them after almost a decade.
If I spent all the money at once, or even within a year I could not have justified it, but over many years it somehow makes sense. Well I try and think so anyway...lol

[icefields]

i just noticd seller has 22 negatives in past 12 months
some are from the same buyer.
most claim cards never arrived

stats from interwebby thingy

2017-18 Upper Deck Tim Hortons Hockey Autographs and Memorabilia Cards
Autographs and memorabilia cards are a part 2017-18 Upper Deck Tim Hortons Hockey, but they extremely tough to pull.

NHL Signatures are inserted 1:7,200 packs. The checklist has 15 players. With less than 1,500 total cards available, it averages to less than 100 copies each if all are done in the same numbers.

Joining them are six autographed jersey cards. These combine to land nearly 1:70,000 packs.

Although not quite as scarce as autographs, NHL Jersey Relics are still not easy to find. Included 1:1,800 packs, the checklist has 18 different cards.

so doing the math if he has 150 jersey cards he could of opened 270.,000 packs wow
even getting 25 bucks for each he is losing money


so either he patiently sought out and bought these jersey crads over the last 4-5 years and he is selling them off
or
he hit a tim hortons brinks truck, took the cards and left the coffee (prolly easier to sell the coffee lol)

[subban7677]

I know who you're talking about. He seems to have sold 30 or 40 Carey Price jersey cards in the past few months. I've been tempted to buy, but the whole thing feels hinky.

[WillyC]

sounds like the same guy who has sold dozens and dozens of Tavares Tim Horton's jersey and auto cards over the last year... I emailed him to ask if they were legit as I was curious about buying a couple. He said they were indeed real and that he had a connection to get them. I was going to ask if it was a Tim Horton's connecton or an Upper Deck connection, however, I came away from it with the thought, I would not include any more Tim Horton's cards into my collection.

IMO, prize cards being moved like this in large quantities by someone who has a connection... confirms, even Tim Horton's prize cards are worthless junk.

[Savard18]

There are a lot of breakers out there..

I mean you can find large quantities of any card you want really.. And "rare" er "scarce" is pretty subjective. Now I would be worried if they were serial numbered and they have a significant share of them, but the reality is that there are just flippers out there that break product looking for the super high-end stuff and then they take the "lesser" cards and make lots out of them.... It can be pretty profitable if you have the money and play the odds.

[WillyC]

my guess is someone at the printing company has scooped some 30x40 make ready press sheets of the prize cards and is finishing them into actual cards.

The sheer volume of these prize cards seems to defy purchased box breaks or them coming from rare pack pulls.

This is basically how the press sheet cut Gretzky RCs entered the hobby.