Weary of Fleer?

[bmoy88]

Does everybody still think about old Fleer?

Every time I see an EBay auction of a Fleer GU or auto card, I hesitate. Because of their prior bankruptcy and liquidation of inventory (including non-auto'd autograph and unfinished GU'd cards) it makes me wonder if what is being sold is real or not. Anybody else?

From what year forward should we trust the authenticity of Fleer GU and auto cards?

[TheTGB]

2006 and forward since Upper Deck bought it out.

[gosoxx777]

i still buy some fleer but not much however the new fleer i do buy

[Johnny8242]

I liked the old Fleer a lot their WWE product was a whole lot better then the Topps. I buy a lot of FLEER GU and such. I absolutely hate FLEER Ultra though the cards are so ugly!

[MDIZZ]

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so like a lot of fleer cards r fake?

[autocut]

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so like a lot of fleer cards r fake?

NAh, they are not more fake. The main problem is scarcity of cards. All replacement cards were sold also, so if a card was limited to 50-100, there could be 300-500 on the market.

[Stang81]

One thing with some of the Fleer stuff, after it was auctioned off TONS of it hit eBay.

Many of the pieces did NOT have a jersey swatch, or were cards #1/1 but didn't have jersey pieces or autos.

If there is something like this from 2001-2004 (or 2005) and it is an awesome Patch I would be skeptical.

Thanks
Mike

[pgrossma]

I can add a little bit of additional information here in the form of a case study:

I encountered the liquidated Fleer replacement cards in the course of my usual Trammell card hunting when a slew of '02 Fleer Fall Classic Rival Factions dual patch cards of Ripken/Trammell and Ozzie Smith/Trammell surfaced. In this case, the cards could be distinguished from those pulled from packs because they didn't have a full serial number--where you expected to see something along the lines of "20/50" you saw only "/50". I inquired about this discrepancy to the seller who was up front about the source of the cards being the liquidation sale. I think about the worst you can say about my experience is that I overpaid for my copy of this card as the seller proved to have a short stack of them and I got to watch the price drop steadily with each sucessive listing.

In closing, this tells me that in at least some cases, liquidation cards can be distinguished from pack-inserted cards. And thus while the supply/demand curve for Fleer product has changed as a result of their demise, I don't think that the credibility of Fleer product should necessarily be called into question on a global scale.

I would be interested to know whether this numbering difference I observed was observed on other products as well.

Peter G.

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I like that a lot of unreleased cards hit the market when the auction was over.

[meuandthelot]

Every time I see an EBay auction of a Fleer GU or auto card, I hesitate. Because of their prior bankruptcy and liquidation of inventory (including non-auto'd autograph and unfinished GU'd cards) it makes me wonder if what is being sold is real or not. Anybody else?

Good Post! Future reference I think many Fleer liquidation cards make great collectable pieces, but I'd classify them almost Odd-Ball,Test-Issues or similar.

It would be nice IF they were represented properly..Utopian. All would be good.
Sadly, Given our "Rare is better mindset" there is money to be made with these.
When people have a lack of knowledge they often overpay, even more so when misinformed(IE: Poor photo's, Off descriptions:no #'s, partial numbers, etc..). Almost Robbed or stolen from.. when creations are made & offered for sale as L@@K!!!!!!!!!!! Unique PaTcH RARE !!!!!!!!!!!WOW 1OF1

But..Thanks to information posted above in prior posts & elsewhere here at SCF by player collectors and plain ole' astute collectors, we Can find information on most cards...

That said, I don't have the time to stay up on the myriad of mainstream issues with variations, inserts & parallels Nth power ;) Let alone something that should have never hit the market.

So, Yes...
I also find myself passing over most Fleer cards from 2000-2005 for fear of obtaining a "Crafted" non-authentic card posing as a real issue.