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    so your arguement is that, they had a long stretch of luck that lasted all playoffs? Beat a great team thats poorly coached? Kobe is a more complete player because his team has a better record? Lebron isn't a complete player because his only been to the finals once and has never won a Finals MVP honor?

    Let define complete player, i think it's someone who makes his team better while putting up good all around numbers, we looked at Kobe and Lebrons numbers and saw that LBJ was clearly the more complete player. You said to look and FG%, assists and steals, well i did and LBJ has a better FG% and APG%.

    Also, did you forget that Chuancy was bust and was never really that good tell his 02-03campaign?

    I'm not a LBJ bandwagoner, I've liked this kid from day one, he is a special talent you won't ever see again for a long time

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    then agree lebron wouldve been better off going to college you have to give that much, since were both being very stubborn here, youll still have your opinon and so will i but you know hed be better off going to college, imagine if he went to ohio state, they couldve had for a year, lebron, oden, conley
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    not sure if i'm being stubborn, but i guess i can agree that college would have been good, but we would of just dominated that too, and got taken as a freshman.
    College is good for anyone but he didn't need to go to college, his game was already developed. If he came out of college he would be right where he is now, but withought 4 years of NBA experience

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    they faced the wizards WITHOUT gilbert arenas and caron butler in the 1st round, they were lucky and cant denie it is awhole different series without those 2 playing, 2nd they were lucky to beat my pistons only because flip saunders is the worst coach in the entire world, to me kobe has a better 3 point shot%, better steal AND HIS TEAM HAS THE BETTER RECORD, lebron thinks he is the team, and he thinks hes never wrong...
    take a look at shooting percentage assists steals, team record, clutch performance, mvp in the finals, did you forget chauncey went 3rd in the 1997 draft??
    look more closly in important #;s
    i hate lebron because everyone wants to jump on his bandwagon because he was told to be good,to bad hes NOT

    1. it is not LBJ's faut that wizards didnt have them
    2. too get that far they have to win games which they did and made it through the playoffs which they wouldnt have done without LBJ
    3. it isnt LBJ's fault everyone jumps on his banwagon
    4. your not comparing GOOD TO BAD your comparing who you LIKE AND DONT LIKE. we can tell from an earlier statement about billups that you are a pistons/billups fan. billups is no where near the level that LBJ is at. you dont have to like him just dont hate on him. if you dont believe me do a poll se who peoplehink is better

    Not trying to be rude but...LBJ is one of the TOP 3 pleasyers in the NBA right now and theres nothing you can do about it.

    i cannot stand kobe just like you cant stand LBJ but im not gonna say kobe isnt a good player because he may be the best in the NBA atm. i dont like him because of his lack of assists and taking crdibility but im not gonna lie, he is an AMAZING player.

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    jamming- i just read yours after i posted and we both said the same thing about kobe lol. i think the whole main reason for me not liking kobe is because he wasw always compared as "competing" for best with AI. so i dont think many people can like both kobe and AI.

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    I believe it is very petty to want someone to fail unless someone has truly done something heinous for which he deserves disciplinary punishment. Moreover, the point of this thread is to post who we voted for as All-Stars, not how much we hate or like a certain player (I personally don't like Kobe, but voted for him based on impersonal analysis of his play). Of course, people are entitled to vote for whomever they want.

    With all that said, thank you for not resorting to personal insults. It could have easily fallen into that, but instead became a debate with actual points instead of ad hominem remarks. : )

    i avoid personal insults and such, just wanted to debate the fact that LBJ is one of the greats, and dismiss the personal badgering. Anyway, here are my picks, I already posted them but thought we should get back to the acutal topic,

    My Picks:

    WEST:
    F)Tim Duncan
    F)Kevin Durant
    G)Kobe Bryant
    G)Steve Nash
    C)Yao Ming

    EAST:
    F)Kevin Garnett
    F)Lebron James
    G)Dwanye Wade
    G)Michael Redd
    C)Dwight Howard

    Of course, people are entitled to vote for whomever they want.

    I voted for Durant, LOVE the kid and I'm from the WA
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    I decided to base my votes based on who I thought was playing best at the time. I could have voted for some of my faves like Antoine (lol), but I just really want to see who I think are the current best players represented at the All-Star game. A lot of people complain that people pick favorites for the All-Star game, but I don't see a reason why fans shouldn't be allowed to do that. I like the way that it's set up so that people can base their decisions on who they think is best, who they like the most, or some combination of the two.

    I like to vote for a couple of my favs, like Durant and Lebron, but I also like to vote for people that i think deserve to be there, people to me that deserve it, I cast a different vote everyday

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