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03-20-2008, 05:52 PM #1
sv vs bv
Just a question about sv vs bv. In general do people say the sv is half of the high bv?
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03-20-2008, 07:03 PM #2
Not necessarily, though sometimes it works out that way. Most people who go by sv use ebay prices.
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03-20-2008, 08:03 PM #3
This is a very tricky subject to debate. When you go by sell value and use eBay as your reference then the prices can vary a lot. I see a MJD SPx Auto sell for $30 Dlvd all the time but one just recently ended for $20 Dlvd. So would you use the $30 sell value or the $30 sell value??
When you use BV is hardly ever changes but some cards might book for $100 and sell for $30 while others book for $100 and sell for $120. I personally trade using both because if BV's match with a $200 BV trade but sell values are off by more than $15 I usually won't make the trade. In this hobby you can't be trading down because it is already so hard to sell cards that are mid-value cards.
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03-20-2008, 08:10 PM #4
It seems that prices on the newer products in Beckett have come out lower than they used to. This makes it difficult to say sv is half of bv. The commons are probably priced double the sv, but the higher end seems to be closer to high bv nowdays. I've noticed this is especially apparent in Bowman Chrome Baseball Prospects. In some cases on the better players the refractors will sell close to or over high bv alot. Just look at ebay completed listings to see what the sv actually is.
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03-20-2008, 08:13 PM #5
Thanks for the help. Was just curious because i have seen a lot of ppl say "take the standard 50%" when trading. I was assuming that to mean 50% off bv.
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03-20-2008, 08:19 PM #6
Sell value to me is a bad subject. A card I desire, I may pay more for than if you wanted it. That to me is preference. Now book value is just also a standard. but it is a fairly consistant guage when trading. Also........ebay prices are irrelevant to me.....it is a convenience store......some items are very inflated at different times. Just my opinion is all......good luck.
CW
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03-20-2008, 10:37 PM #7

As you can see, there's no real consensus on what people consider fair sale value. In general, I use 33 1/3% of BV as an average gauge of what the sale value should be.
Obviously, if the player or set you are looking for is in high demand, then you're going to pay more than that. This is especially true when a certain set has just come out...the combination of no BV being available, the novelty of that set, and people being impatient about getting certain cards they want from the set cause the sale value to be higher when a set first comes out.
A lot of people will disagree with 1/3 BV...and most of them will be sellers also. A lot of people won't sell their stuff that cheap, which is fine...you can usually find someone that will. As long as you're not impatient or impulsive when buying, you can find plenty of people willing to sell at or near 1/3.
What I do is set that certain level (1/3 BV for me) and try to get something at or near there. If you just start looking for something, you may see 3 at 60%, then you find one at 50% and go ahead and buy it because you think that's a good deal. But if you had waited longer and looked some more, you could have found one cheaper. It's just doing the research and looking for a bargain, just like shopping for anything else. Different people will sell for different values...just find the one you're willing to pay.
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03-21-2008, 03:12 AM #8

honestley there really is no sell value sell value is what someone will pay for it for exampl i just recently sold a 2007 leaf limited jim brown jsy auto #erd to 32 i looked on completed listings for it the only one sold for $155 dlvd mine only sold for $70 dlvd so you never really know it just depends how bad someone wants it
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03-21-2008, 09:07 AM #9

With the way beckett prices cards these days there is no way sell value can be half of high book value. The way alot of this new stuff has been coming out is selling for full book value of what beckett is bringing it out at. But it is just a guessing game on what stuff will sell for these days.
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03-21-2008, 09:56 PM #10
as numerous have said it's really hard to sell...for some half is a guideline...for some it is not even close.
you gotta pick and choose for things you like what is your personal limit. Somehow I try and guesstimate middle ground between the two to get an idea...but then you deal with potential as compared to less potential to increase, and sometimes thats why sell values are higher, because bv is anticipated to go up...it can become a mess! hopefully everyone's feedback here you can put into one opinion and understand it better.
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